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Canada: in your face, justice !!!!
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | Everyone remembers when 15-year-old Jane Creba was murdered on Boxing Day 2005, caught in a deadly crossfire between two rival gangs in the heart of downtown Toronto, while shopping with her sister.
Last week, the final two of the four men convicted in Creba’s murder were sentenced.
So, did we get justice?
You decide.
Tyshaun Barnett and Louis Raphael Woodcock, both 23, were convicted of manslaughter in Creba’s murder and on four counts of aggravated assault for wounding others.
At the time of the shooting, both were under court orders not to possess firearms due to their criminal records.
On Thursday, Superior Court Justice Gladys Pardu sentenced each to 12 years in prison for manslaughter and eight years concurrent for the aggravated assaults.
But with two-for-one credit for four years spent in pre-trial custody, plus parole, they could be free in just over two years.
Meanwhile, Jorrell Simpson-Rowe, 17 at the time of Creba’s murder and sentenced as an adult under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, was convicted of second-degree murder and two counts of aggravated assault in December, 2008. He got life with no chance of parole for seven years, meaning he’ll be eligible for parole in December, 2012.
Jeremiah Valentine, 27, who “very likely” fired the bullet that killed Creba — which couldn’t be determined conclusively — pled guilty in December, 2009 to second-degree murder. He was sentenced to life with no possibility of parole for 12 years.
So, less than five years after rival gangs opened fire near Yonge and Dundas on the busiest shopping day of the year, murdering an innocent teenager, wounding six others and terrorizing thousands, the longest sentence is, in effect, a minimum of 12 years for the suspected killer.
The other three could all be free by the end of 2012 — seven years after Creba’s death.
This raises the question of why we even bother to refer to “life” sentences in the media, when parole, available even to repeat, violent offenders, renders the term meaningless?
Despite two “life” sentences in the Creba case, no one was really sentenced to “life” in the common sense way people understand that term.
Similarly, the two “12 year” sentences are a mirage.
The federal Conservative government, to its credit, passed legislation earlier this year ending the two-for-one discount for pre-trial custody, except in exceptional circumstances. Judges need to understand the public wants those circumstances to be very exceptional.
That said, the feds have over-reached by calling their law the “Truth in Sentencing Act” because easy parole is still undermining sentencing from the other end of the equation.
“Truth in sentencing” will occur when a judge pronounces a sentence of “life in prison” and it means life. Or when a judge imposes a sentence of “12 years” and it means 12 years, or something close to it, not parole in as little as four.
Until that happens, there will be no truth in sentencing. |
went to buy shoes, dead at 15.
sold guns, stomped guys head and bragged about it. soon in a neighbourhood next to you.
go Canada !!! |
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| chinamon |
they should be locked up for life.
take a life, lose your life. |
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| patpicos |
| sometimes i wish we were in Texas. It would be dealt the way it should be! |
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| magikb |
| quote: | Originally posted by devnull
sometimes i wish we were in Texas. It would be dealt the way it should be! |
I don't believe in the death penalty. Let them rot in the GP of prison for life. They'll get what is coming to them in there. If the crime was bad enough, they'll receive the punishment/abuse or take their own life. I don't agree they should be let out on parole early either. You take a life, you know how you'll be spending the rest of yours. |
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| geroin |
| i would approve of dropping these 4 somewhere in sahara dessert with one bottle of water and 4 guns and do a reality show out of that although it may not last more than 1 day. |
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| VDub |
| quote: | Originally posted by geroin
i would approve of dropping these 4 somewhere in sahara dessert with one bottle of water and 4 guns and do a reality show out of that although it may not last more than 1 day. |
Send them to Palestine with Isreali uniforms...
Or vice versa... |
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| geroin |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
Send them to Palestine with Isreali uniforms...
Or vice versa... |
this will be a fast death though.. |
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| Knox |
This is so upsetting. It boggles my mind how this can happen. I was stuck in Play De Record when all this happened that day... when I finally got to get out it was just nuts on the street. Such a scary day.
RIP Jane Creba. |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by geroin
this will be a fast death though.. |
Send them in there with the most festive PRIDE outfits then. |
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| Djsketchbag |
Two for one is gone as of feb of this year, and it depends were you do time how soon you get out, weather its federal or provinial jail. In most provinicial jails you serve 2/3 of your sentace. i.e getting 90 days you serve 60. But after you have done your time you are still monitored by a probation officer.
Multiple terms of probation run concurrent but if you happen to breach and for example yout serving 3 probation terms for 3 charges each new charge is tripled. So if you commit an assult you'll be charged with Assult x3 Disturbing the peace x 3, breach of probation terms x 6 so you end up with 12 different charges or more from one incident. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| I'm sure her parents will be happy to hear about this. Justice served.:rolleyes: |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | | Everyone remembers when 15-year-old Jane Creba was murdered on Boxing Day 2005 |
How the could anybody forget?? We hear about it at least once a week since it happened :rolleyes: |
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