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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
I could get a sound like that in software, without the noise too. |
I agree, and it will be very like it indeed. |
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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
(although the OP gags for it I guess) |
Nope, just showing me new kit like others show thiers, monitors etc. Bit like blokes showing old cars I suppose.
I've never once gotton into the analogue / v's digital debates. It's all sound waves disturbing atmospheric atoms that end up as the movement and interaction of atoms and quantum material in my brain which in turn all came from outside - chickens @arses in pies for example, so whatever.:stongue: |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by Richard Butler
Nope, just showing me new kit like others show thiers, monitors etc. Bit like blokes showing old cars I suppose.
I've never once gotton into the analogue / v's digital debates. It's all sound waves disturbing atmospheric atoms that end up as the movement and interaction of atoms and quantum material in my brain which in turn all came from outside - chickens @arses in pies for example, so whatever.:stongue: |
I've not got into the debate either, but still say the bassline you posted has a certain sound.
I also meant OP as in the post itself, not the poster himself. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
And I must disagree with you too. There is a considerable difference to analogue gear and any VST i've heard so far. I've no interest in getting into a debate about it (although the OP gags for it I guess) and i'm not saying one is better than the other, but there most definately is a difference.
Of course it can be done very well with software as you say. |
Not that I want to turn this in to a H vs S debate, but Bob Moog himself told me to my face that the Arturia Minimoog sounds identical to the Voyager hardware edition. He said he could barely tell the difference, and even that was he believed down to the coloration the output stage added to it opposed the DAC from a soundcard.
Having said that, the majority of hardware emulations are quite crap. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Not that I want to turn this in to a H vs S debate, but Bob Moog himself told me to my face that the Arturia Minimoog sounds identical to the Voyager hardware edition. He said he could barely tell the difference, and even that was he believed down to the coloration the output stage added to it opposed the DAC from a soundcard. |
Honestly, this doesn't surprise me at all. Every sound is just a waveform, and every waveform can be created with some kind of software because software in general can be used to create an infinite number of waveforms. This really is the stupidest debate of all time and people just won't. ing. let. go.
Can we all just agree that whenever somebody says "you can't make that sound with software" they really mean "I can't make that sound with software?"
Most analogue hardware is all about trading trading versatility - the ability to make damn near any sound you could imagine - with ease of use - producing only a limited number of sounds but producing them very well and with very little effort. And that's totally fine, honestly, coming from somebody who hates "sound design", I think it's a great choice for those who have the coin. It's special-purpose hardware vs. general-purpose hardware (computer). But every single quip made implying that one needs special gear to get the best sounds is just piling onto the collective stupidity of the internets.
So please, stop it. As the OP said, he was just showing off his gear; we need not turn every single thread about gear into more hardware vs. software flamebait. If you find it too hard to get great sounds out of software then don't - but keep it to yourself already. |
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| Richard Butler |
Just sitting here thinking about somethingn the Swedish House Mafia guys were saying in last months Future Music mag >>>>>>
They are switching to mixing desks and hardware, and in terms here's waht they were saying;
'There's a million bedroom producers out there, so it's all about finding a quality edge now, and that's why we're switiching a lot to hardsware' (one of them just bought a massive house in Hollywood and is having an SSL desk installed).
Not my thought - just something interesting to ponder.
I don't know if hardware synths sound different, maybe it's the mind playing games - you ever had that where you were automating a lane and you thought it was great, then realised after a while you hadn't switched on the automation at all - your imagination just made it all up"! |
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| MSZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Can we all just agree that whenever somebody says "you can't make that sound with software" they really mean "I can't make that sound with software?"
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i agree with this. |
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| tehlord |
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So please, stop it. As the OP said, he was just showing off his gear; we need not turn every single thread about gear into more hardware vs. software flamebait. If you find it too hard to get great sounds out of software then don't - but keep it to yourself already.[/COLOR][/FONT] |
I'd love to know why you think people sharing different opinions is flamebait.
The two are wildly different things.
There was a thread in here not so long ago with the phrase 'chink bitch' in it, refering to an Asian woman and you didn't have much to say about that? Then a couple of blokes share opinions about synthesis in the production forum and you come down on it? |
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| Richard Butler |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tehlord
I'd love to know why you think people sharing different opinions is flamebait.
The two are wildly different things.
There was a thread in here not so long ago with the phrase 'chink bitch' in it, refering to an Asian woman /QUOTE]
You see that one doesn't bother me. If a Nigerian called me a Limey Ho, it simple would not register as offence - I'd just laugh it off.
We've lost our sense of humour in the UK.
It's fine to take the p1ss out of French 'frog's or German 'automatons', but other races are out of bounds - this to me is seeking to treat other races as lessors that do not therefore seem to have the spine nor fibre to take it and that in it'self is racist.
This is a fun beer debate.,:happy2: |
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| tehlord |
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You see that one doesn't bother me. If a Nigerian called me a Limey Ho, it simple would not register as offence - I'd just laugh it off.
We've lost our sense of humour in the UK.
It's fine to take the p1ss out of French 'frog's or German 'automatons', but other races are out of bounds - this to me is seeking to treat other races as lessors that do not therefore seem to have the spine nor fibre to take it and that in it'self is racist.
This is a fun beer debate.,:happy2: |
Perhaps Rich, but the ignorant comments can go far deeper than that in this place, although that's not really the point I was trying to make. I also wasn't attempting a good old trolling either. I'm a sober grown up talking to other soder (apart from you of course) grown ups and don't need to be patronised by anybody skim reading posts.
I'm nearly 40 years old, and i'll do and say whatever I like within the rules of the forum thanks. |
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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
Perhaps Rich, but the ignorant comments can go far deeper than that in this place, |
At the end of the day each Human is a pile of atoms each one of which has never been, nor eber will be alive. We forget we take each and every atom from other creatures and plant bodies and merely they take a convienient 'us shape' for aboutn 80 years then EVERY lkast atom goes off eventualy into other things - rain drops, stinging nettle leaves, lice and rabiits. ERach atom remains unchanged - people dont realise this startling fact - so the atoms that hold memories of your loved ones, never actualkt change - they remain an atom of sulphur / carbon / zinc - but unaltered -
wtf - I'm beered, sorry |
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