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| ne1seenmykeys |
| quote: | Originally posted by wozzeck
Thanks for the help:
Questions, is there a difference between the ND310II and ND310??
This is my house, no one here, and I live far enough from neighbors that they can't hear it :) Volume is no problem.
I really don't have any trust in ebay, so i want to buy it online, the site i'm looking at is www.etronics.com, which has them listed for 184.99..The problem is, their shipping charge is 80!!!! dollars UPS ground.. I checked the actual cost, its only 40ish. Anything I can do? Is there somewhere better?
About recievers, i read JBL's site that if you underpowre the speakers and then turn them up (you want them louder since amp/reciever is underpowered), the speakers will try to reproduce unreproducable noises and go ka-boom. I don't want this, considering each speaker is 250W each, what is a suitable powering device under 200 dollars?
Thanks, i have more questions but as always I can't think of any.
If you want to meet on TA chat it might be easier :)
Wozz :gsmile: |
OK, first of all, if those are the speakers you're going to get, they are going to shake the damn house, so get ready for that power. Also, to find an amp that will deliver power to speakers like that (200 watts/channel) for under $200 will be next to impossible. I'm thinking you need to be willing to spend in the $200-250 range.
As far as EBAY goes, there are legitimate business set-up online at EBAY (who I got mine through) that sell stuff...not just your average Joe who you never know what you're gonna get. Besides, with EBAY and businesses that sell stuff through there, you can check the feedback on them. I'm telling you, for the speakers, that's the way to go....especially if you can do a buy it now option. DO what you want though...it's your $$ |
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| wozzeck |
Thanks for the tips :) Are these speakers that powerful? When i listened to them in bestbuy, they sounded loud, but not shake the house loud!
I just don't trust ebay as I was telling jdat, I've had some bad experiences that have soured me on the entire ebay deal. I'd rather spend a little extra and know I can sue someone if need be :)
Can you recommend a reciever for me? I'm talking to a friend who thinks I should go for the Harman Kardon HK 3470..
Thanks
wozz |
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| ne1seenmykeys |
| quote: | Originally posted by wozzeck
Thanks for the tips :) Are these speakers that powerful? When i listened to them in bestbuy, they sounded loud, but not shake the house loud![/b] |
Trust me, whn you have the full 400 watts going to those puppies, you'll know what loud is. Those things go down to 38-40Hz too, which is LOWWWWWWW bass, so it'll be boomin' too. Ya gotta remember, no matter how loud in Best Buy they were, your room/house is going to sound MUCH louder b/c of the space.
I just don't trust ebay as I was telling jdat, I've had some bad experiences that have soured me on the entire ebay deal. I'd rather spend a little extra and know I can sue someone if need be :)
I understand completely....sometimes it's best to think that way. Better safe than sorry.
Can you recommend a reciever for me? I'm talking to a friend who thinks I should go for the Harman Kardon HK 3470..
I can't help ya on that, other than to say just get something without all the extras (surround-sound, DTS, etc) unless you DO want to hook up all your to it, and not just your DJ stuff. I guess in this case, all the gadgets, etc are not neccesarrily better. You want ample power (at or near 200 watts to each channel) from a reputable source (Crown, etc) at a good price. Do the searching and that's all I can tell you....good luck!!!!!!!!! Keep us updated!!!
Thanks
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| DJ Teknique |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdat
logically it's 250 X 2 = 500 watts
underpowering won't do nothing bad to your speakers .... Overpowering will blow them out ,,, but underpowering is just like giving them less power... no big deal it still works good ... it's just not running at full power |
underpowering your speakers will couse distortion.....we wouldn't want that now would we? the best thing is to have your amp RMS power as close to your speaker RMS power.... |
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| wozzeck |
The person I was talking to said a full-bandwidth 100Wx2 amp like H/K 3470 would be enough to power this well..
True? I'm not buying an amp, I want to buy a reciever since it'll be cheaper |
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| Scottaculous |
A receiver is an amp + FM/AM tuner + all the audio/video bells and whistles. If you just want to provide power to your speakers, I would just get an amp. Stand alone amps are more efficient and clean.
As for the difference between JBL ND310II and ND310 is just marketing. JBL premiered the series starting with ND310 and then 2 years later came out with II. Slight design in speaker structure but no major differences. I own a pair of the JBL S312 and JBL S38 for moniters.
The JBL speakers alone will not shake your room. I suggest adding a subwoofer to your system for that extra bass. The recommended HK 3470 will clip under heavy bass (bass takes a lot of wattage). Never look at max wattage of a receiver b/c you should never reach that number without risking damage. Most receivers are at 70% load when the volume is at 0dB. |
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| wozzeck |
I thought if i went amp route it would be MORE expensive.. i would have to buy pre-amp, amp, etc.. Is there an amp you recommend?
What about the Sony STRDE-185 reciever? good bad? |
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| ne1seenmykeys |
| quote: | Originally posted by wozzeck
I thought if i went amp route it would be MORE expensive.. i would have to buy pre-amp, amp, etc.. Is there an amp you recommend?
What about the Sony STRDE-185 reciever? good bad? |
you don't have to get pre-amp b/c, as far as I know, most (like 95%) mixers are pre-amped. I'm telling you, if you don't want to hook anything else up to your receiver, then just get an amp. If you do the shopping around on the Net, then you can get a better deal than a receiver. |
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| wozzeck |
| I just don't know how to look, and all the amp's I've looked at in the 500W range are really expensive.. I'm going to try the Sony Reciever |
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| Scottaculous |
| How much are you looking to spend on this amp? |
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| TranceGeek |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Teknique
underpowering your speakers will couse distortion.....we wouldn't want that now would we? the best thing is to have your amp RMS power as close to your speaker RMS power.... |
well actually overpowering would cause a lot more distortion and could damage the speakers permanently... underpowering will not really destort unless turned all the way...
it's too bad home audio isn't as easy to bridge as car audio
*shrugs* |
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| Trypsin |
If you're worried about sound quality DON'T buy online. Different speakers are good at different things - some perform well on highs, some on lows, etc etc, and different speakers from the same maker and of the same model may also sound different. So you need to go to a showroom and take a mix cd or two and spend a good couple hours listening to different systems. Remember, if you're going to plonk down a ton of money, it'd better be worth it.
If you're just going for loudness, however, online is fine because all you need is the number of watts it can handle. |
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