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Whats in your Bug Out Bag? (pg. 11)
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EddieZilker
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Most people have enough tinned food in their house to last that long, not counting other food that will remain edible for a couple of days.


A veritable feast of surplus water-chestnuts and baby corn purchased for the half-assed attempt at a Chinese stir fry in an improperly cured wok.

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Originally posted by enydo
I'm sure showing your bug out bag to chicks will get you mad .


If that doesn't cinch it, I like to pull out the M1911 after we've run out of coke. Nothing quite like a weapon to take the edge off of completely unfounded paranoia for the next tense nine-hours, often peppered with a few psychotic episodes.
Halcyon+On+On
See, the trick is to have the goil and kid around for when goes down, that way you have plenty of fresh meat on hand.

Mmmm, girlburger.
bas
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Originally posted by Chris Crossland
you spend all your money on pumas and EDM shows.

Please. I buy Nikes and I haven't had to pay to get in to a club since I was 20.
Lira
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
In a first world country you'll never be trapped inside your house for more than a week at the maximum.

As a representative of a "non-first world country", I can assure you that it isn't any different around here. That's why I found the bit about Argentina almost insulting.

What I reckon is fascinating about survivalists is that they're mainly from the United States, which is very telling given their culture. I opened two threads at random in the forum Chris posted, one titled "Clearing it up. Why you should STFU after self defense !!" and one called "How will you power your communication plan after a real TSHTF situation". I just spotted two users from outside the US (one is from Australia and the other from a "Bolivarian Republic"... though it could just be a Chaves supporter in the US).

I know Christian culture is infatuated with eschatology (protestants apparently even more so, though I can't confirm): there's always been some tension regarding the last of days, though it's probably more secularised now and instead of a cataclysm commanded by God, we find it more likely to have a natural disaster sweep us off the surface of the planet. Newton ages ago thought our days was counted, and he was amongst the brightest minds ever raised in a Christian environment.

However, what seems to set the US apart is the deeply ingrained belief that everyone is out to get them - even themselves. You should rely on no one but yourself, apparently, and even their rather docile government (compared to more authoritarian regimes around the world) is a source of anxiety. No wonder the US is the only rich nation where religion is still important to most of the population: I'm yet to read Zuckerman's "Society Without God" but he does say a few things about this American anxiety and how it relates to their religiosity.

So much for the 2nd amendment, heh :p
david.michael
What the .
bas
To be fair, Chris is a trained Marine. His brain doesn't work the same as normal people because they re-wire them to be fighters/survivalists. He's always expecting the worst to happen because he wants to be needed.
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by david.michael
What the .


Quiet! I've pictures of the bunker you're building in your basement in the "Music" Producers Forum! The ONLY reason to keep those speakers so close is for the sandbags and Faraday cage you're building around your "studio".
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by bas
To be fair, Chris is a trained Marine. His brain doesn't work the same as normal people because they re-wire them to be fighters/survivalists. He's always expecting the worst to happen because he wants to be needed.

I see. Well, in all fairness, his life is much much different from the one I've had, and I studied for 7 years in a military school.

Out of curiosity, is this why you were working out so much, Chris? And I thought you just wanted to look good, heh :p
Halcyon+On+On
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
As a representative of a "non-first world country", I can assure you that it isn't any different around here. That's why I found the bit about Argentina almost insulting.

What I reckon is fascinating about survivalists is that they're mainly from the United States, which is very telling given their culture. I opened two threads at random in the forum Chris posted, one titled "Clearing it up. Why you should STFU after self defense !!" and one called "How will you power your communication plan after a real TSHTF situation". I just spotted two users from outside the US (one is from Australia and the other from a "Bolivarian Republic"... though it could just be a Chaves supporter in the US).

I know Christian culture is infatuated with eschatology (protestants apparently even more so, though I can't confirm): there's always been some tension regarding the last of days, though it's probably more secularised now and instead of a cataclysm commanded by God, we find it more likely to have a natural disaster sweep us off the surface of the planet. Newton ages ago thought our days was counted, and he was amongst the brightest minds ever raised in a Christian environment.

However, what seems to set the US apart is the deeply ingrained belief that everyone is out to get them - even themselves. You should rely on no one but yourself, apparently, and even their rather docile government (compared to more authoritarian regimes around the world) is a source of anxiety. No wonder the US is the only rich nation where religion is still important to most of the population: I'm yet to read Zuckerman's "Society Without God" but he does say a few things about this American anxiety and how it relates to their religiosity.

So much for the 2nd amendment, heh :p


I don't see it being related to religion at all, really. A case can very well be made that religion is so deeply engrained into our culture that it is indivisible with gender stereotypes to a point, but it's quite indirect. No, survivalism is altogether lumped with masculinity in my country. I would consider camping/fishing to be a rather formitive rite of passage for young males, and indeed we have exceedingly Christian-centric organizations like the Boy Scouts of America that generally pride themselves on things like tying knots, making fires with mere sticks, and filming grainy sex tapes in the scoutmaster's basement when there's a sleepover. But indeed, the United States has a vast array of terrains and environmental investments to eschew great portions of land specifically for recreation, it's just second competence tradition these days that guys should know how to handle themselves in the wild places if they're indeed men at all. Hurr-hurr-hurr.

Mix that with firearms possession and truck balls, you have a potent combination of standards to which we can accomplish all manner of temperamental indoctrinations such as homophobia and paranoia. God bless.
Chris Crossland
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Originally posted by Lira

Out of curiosity, is this why you were working out so much, Chris? And I thought you just wanted to look good, heh :p



Sure it's nice to look good but yeah, that's the primary reason. I'm as healthy as an Ox. I don't want my body to hold me back. It's really the most important prep! If you're not physically able to do what needs to be done, you're ed! Diabetes and cancer runs in my family so I take care of myself. I don't wanna have to rely on insulin or other medications cause when SHTF it'll be hard to find them and even if I stock up my days are still numbered. That's obviously the worst case scenario.

I'm working on quitting smoking. I can go without it but I enjoy it too much. I only have between 5 and 7 smokes a day so it's not too bad. As long as I can still run 5 miles no problem, I'm happy.

Theres a good youtube channel that has a lot of good information and shes spot on about everything.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePatriotNurse


Meat187
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Originally posted by Chris Crossland
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePatriotNurse


Jenny should totally do a parody titled "The unpatriotic Nurse" or something. :stongue:
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I don't see it being related to religion at all, really. A case can very well be made that religion is so deeply engrained into our culture that it is indivisible with gender stereotypes to a point, but it's quite indirect. No, survivalism is altogether lumped with masculinity in my country. I would consider camping/fishing to be a rather formitive rite of passage for young males, and indeed we have exceedingly Christian-centric organizations like the Boy Scouts of America that generally pride themselves on things like tying knots, making fires with mere sticks, and filming grainy sex tapes in the scoutmaster's basement when there's a sleepover. But indeed, the United States has a vast array of terrains and environmental investments to eschew great portions of land specifically for recreation, it's just second competence tradition these days that guys should know how to handle themselves in the wild places if they're indeed men at all. Hurr-hurr-hurr.

Mix that with firearms possession and truck balls, you have a potent combination of standards to which we can accomplish all manner of temperamental indoctrinations such as homophobia and paranoia. God bless.

Heh, perhaps it's just my take as a foreigner, but it seems religious folks are much more susceptible to believe something will happen in 2012 than atheists/agnostics/humanists in general, specially because they can quickly insert the possible tragedies into a more integrated narrative (God is going to shake things up because [reason]) - you need to be a very quirky atheist not to believe in God but believe the Mayans were on to something. Besides, the rapture is supposed to be a good thing if you're pious.

But, and you do have point, why does this happen so frequently in the US and not in similar countries, such as Canada, Russia, or even Brazil? We've got a vast territory to call our own, and we could use it for all our testosterone-filled needs.
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