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| floyd741 |
| quote: | Originally posted by johncannons1
(Unless secretly your a profesh whos not admitting it)
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I don't think he's ever made it a secret, in fact he's quite fond of telling everyone at every opportunity he finds.
I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing. Some people just don't know how to communicate properly, so they seem like jerks whenever they say anything. I had that problem in Jr. High School, it angered many a teacher when I would correct them in class. They were especially frustrated when they realized that I was right, and they were wrong. |
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| Kysora |
That seems horribly depressing, being completely convinced that nothing you find musically will be new and exciting.
It's probably not what you're here for but you should watch Muse's HAARP videos. It's by far the best live act I've ever seen, and if you've never seen them it's at least something new
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_3Y8Ys9EyA |
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| Beatflux |
| Why do you even come here? It sounds like you have no legitimate reason for coming here other than an ego boost. |
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| ambient_chris |
over the last couple of years I have become bored of the type of dance music I would usually listen to( house, techno, tech house). It would be soul destroying trawling through download sites listening to so much music I disliked. My decks for last couple of years have seen hardly any action. I thought for a while that I had got to the point where I had outgrown what I liked. Ive always had a thing for deep and ambient music and every now and then I hear a track that reminds me of why I love music so much. Thats why I now want to learn how to produce. The really frustrating thing is trying is trying to implement my ideas.
Some of what mad for Brad says rings true with me. I can no longer go to the cinema as nothing satifies me. Its all so boring and unoriginal. But it is a good thing at times because I now I really do appreciate the things that I enjoy. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by ambient_chris
over the last couple of years I have become bored of the type of dance music I would usually listen to( house, techno, tech house). It would be soul destroying trawling through download sites listening to so much music I disliked. My decks for last couple of years have seen hardly any action. I thought for a while that I had got to the point where I had outgrown what I liked. Ive always had a thing for deep and ambient music and every now and then I hear a track that reminds me of why I love music so much. Thats why I now want to learn how to produce. The really frustrating thing is trying is trying to implement my ideas.
Some of what mad for Brad says rings true with me. I can no longer go to the cinema as nothing satifies me. Its all so boring and unoriginal. But it is a good thing at times because I now I really do appreciate the things that I enjoy. |
This is so off topic, but I want to comment on this anyways.
Most of the time, a movie is catering to a niche interest and the story is usually the last thing they care about. You action movies which appeal to young men, and in that sense it's all about the explosions and violence. May I add that Hollywood type of fighting is extremely tame compared to asian stunt actors like Jackie Chan.
Avatar was kind of an extremely impressive tech demo, but it was the worst James Cameron film. Then you have zombie/vampire films and there's a whole another group of people that just want to see that up on the silver screen. Then there are teenaged girls/Mad for Brad who just want to see young bucks take their shirts off on screen and confess their everlasting love to some hot bitch. You have a whole bunch of comic book movies coming out and you'll always get the comic book nerds to go. Sequelitis is extremely prevalent now days, and they are relying more on nostalgia than anything else. There are also a lot of movies that pander directly to christians like The Matrix and I am Legend. If you haven't seen the alternative ending for I am Legend, go check it out on Youtube. It actually makes sense of the zombie's actions, rather than portraying them as crazy monsters. |
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| Waza |
MFB you say your bored with all the music you hear, so why don't you pioneer the next big thing. Say be it a new genre or a new sound. Get creative that way.
But when you have the new sound give me heads up on it so I can cash in on it. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
perhaps others don't feel this way but often, I feel like I've just explored music as much as I want and often I feel like just jumping ship and starting something new. I've always wanted to write. I make a living with music but the mystery is gone. There is nothing you could show me that would excite me. I suppose that is the danger in really learning music.
I am the type of person to master something then change completely what I do. That is how I changed from music styles from rock to EDM to classical to jazz learning everything there is.
Write now, I want to actually write novels or direct movies. I have some insane ideas in my head and I find so many novels , movies are just so damn boring.
I suppose that is the downside of doing music as a profession. It becomes a job. I will always love music but I often wonder if that is what I was really meant to do. I mean i'm ing good at it but I don't see what I couldn't be great at something else.
To put things in perspective, I've been doing music since I was 3 till now which is 29. maybe i just need to hear some new music that blows me away but honestly, that doesn't happen anymore. I wish it did but it doesn't. What does blow me away are things I don't understand like writing, or painting, or stuff like that. |
I'me going to have to talk between the line for obvious reasons here.
Why do you think certain composers have taken the role of producer on many projects, or are more interested in bringing up new talent through the ranks?
A lot of it has to do with the fact they have done it all before, in every way, so collaborations are a way to get inspiration.
Nearly every project I've assisted on has been a collaboration in some respect, either with working studio musicians or high profile mainstream artists, and I think it's mainly to thrown something new in the mix or just to change it up.
It think one other thing you have to do is push the envelope, both technically and creatively. Do things that when you first take them on, make you worries that you can't pull it off - get in to a uncomfortable position creatively and by that I don't mean just taking on something that has too little time (even though that can be helpful in certain situations) or something that you just simply don't have a clue about - I mean something which really tests you.
A fiend just had to score a documentary about Afghanistan. He had five days to completely produce the entire score, from scratch and mix it himself. He said it was 5 days of utter hell in terms of pressure and because he only had a rudimentary knowledge of Afghani music and instruments but it certainly wasn't dull and it pushed him in terms of ability.
I think maybe you need stop orchestrating for others and do something that tests you, based on your own raw creativity and not interpreting someone else vision. You should also find others who are talented in different ways and work with them - even if they are below in certain aspects there will be something that they can do that surprises you. |
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| Scrittah |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
I'me going to have to talk between the line for obvious reasons here.
Why do you think certain composers have taken the role of producer on many projects, or are more interested in bringing up new talent through the ranks?
A lot of it has to do with the fact they have done it all before, in every way, so collaborations are a way to get inspiration.
Nearly every project I've assisted on has been a collaboration in some respect, either with working studio musicians or high profile mainstream artists, and I think it's mainly to thrown something new in the mix or just to change it up.
It think one other thing you have to do is push the envelope, both technically and creatively. Do things that when you first take them on, make you worries that you can't pull it off - get in to a uncomfortable position creatively and by that I don't mean just taking on something that has too little time (even though that can be helpful in certain situations) or something that you just simply don't have a clue about - I mean something which really tests you.
A fiend just had to score a documentary about Afghanistan. He had five days to completely produce the entire score, from scratch and mix it himself. He said it was 5 days of utter hell in terms of pressure and because he only had a rudimentary knowledge of Afghani music and instruments but it certainly wasn't dull and it pushed him in terms of ability.
I think maybe you need stop orchestrating for others and do something that tests you, based on your own raw creativity and not interpreting someone else vision. You should also find others who are talented in different ways and work with them - even if they are below in certain aspects there will be something that they can do that surprises you. |
+1.
Also, what LoveHate said about maybe taking a break, but not quitting music for good. Spend a while working on a novel, and listen to old classics - and by old classics, I mean the first albums you ever owned, stuff that really made you want to get into music. I know that I always end up going back to Daft Punk's Discovery for inspiration, as well as a bunch of classic rock and classical albums I listened to when I was first starting.
Just don't ever give up completely. There's always hope. /cheese |
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| Mise |
| an artist is never neve fully happy with his creation,he always know he can do something better, is like a fight with the devil... |
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| Aesthetic |
This is the world's smallest violin playing for you right here. One day the world will realise your awesomeness just as you do... tosser.
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
off. Its obvious nobody is in my shoes here so why bother. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
At least you are humble  |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| Do drugs and make ambient music. There is no good music left besides ambient music. :tongue2 :crazy: :tongue3 |
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