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This "remixing culture" in today's Trance scene. (pg. 2)
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Light The Fuse
Hold that sucker down?
Its by the OT quartet, from the early 90's - check on youtube (aint got access for a link - im at work)- it was even funnier when jerome decided that he needed to do the vocal mix (i mean add the vocal from the dj tool that you can buy off beatport lol)
its one of the tunes that got me into dance music when i was a kid. (and jerome isma ae from the look of it)
builds like skyscraper mix0rz! |
Damn! I really like this track and thought this was mister Jerome`s own work.. That is disappointing, though its a cool track for sure. |
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| Excess |
the markus schulz remix of perception was labelled as such because he couldn't get in touch with the dead label that had the rights to the original IIRC.
i might just be imagining things |
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| Kris G |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Damn! I really like this track and thought this was mister Jerome`s own work.. That is disappointing, though its a cool track for sure. |
Dude you've been around for a while, how did you not know this? |
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| skip |
| quote: | Originally posted by Light The Fuse
Its also really cool (sarcasm) when the remixers just ignore the original artists all together -
eg Jerome isma ae - hold that sucker down
or markus shulz and justinne suissa - perception etc |
If you can't get the rights to remix something, you can always make a cover version of it. I'm guessing that's the situation here. It's not like he could release it as "The O.T. Quartet - Hold That Sucker Down (Jerome Isma-Ae Remix)" if he doesn't get the permission to do so. But he can make a cover version of it and release that. No problems there. |
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Damn! I really like this track and thought this was mister Jerome`s own work.. That is disappointing, though its a cool track for sure. |
O.T. Quartet was a Rollo project. Yes, pre-FAITHLESS Rollo!
Dude, seriously. How did you not know that!??:crazy: |
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| Teezdalien |
| quote: | Originally posted by skip
If you can't get the rights to remix something, you can always make a cover version of it. I'm guessing that's the situation here. It's not like he could release it as "The O.T. Quartet - Hold That Sucker Down (Jerome Isma-Ae Remix)" if he doesn't get the permission to do so. But he can make a cover version of it and release that. No problems there. |
But then how do you distinguish a cover version from a remix? |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Teezdalien
But then how do you distinguish a cover version from a remix? |
One is labelled a remix and the other isn't.
I always considered a cover a version of the track that doesn't use any elements of the original but sort of recreates the whole thing from scratch. That's just my own definition though... |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I always considered a cover a version of the track that doesn't use any elements of the original but sort of recreates the whole thing from scratch. |
Same. |
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| skip |
| quote: | Originally posted by Teezdalien
But then how do you distinguish a cover version from a remix? |
Might be tricky, but at least a cover version shouldn't contain any samples from the version it covers. Otherwise it's not a cover, but a remix. Distinguishing the two might be really difficult, maybe even impossible. Still doesn't change the fact that a cover is not a remix.
I'd think many "covers" have been released which contain samples from the original tune, but they couldn't get it released as a remix, so they released it as a cover version and hoped not to get caught on the sampling.
No idea what the case is with Hold That Sucker Down (didn't like Jerome's version at all) or Schultz' Perception (which I don't even want to hear.) |
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| Teezdalien |
| quote: | Originally posted by skip
Might be tricky, but at least a cover version shouldn't contain any samples from the version it covers. Otherwise it's not a cover, but a remix. Distinguishing the two might be really difficult, maybe even impossible. Still doesn't change the fact that a cover is not a remix.
I'd think many "covers" have been released which contain samples from the original tune, but they couldn't get it released as a remix, so they released it as a cover version and hoped not to get caught on the sampling.
No idea what the case is with Hold That Sucker Down (didn't like Jerome's version at all) or Schultz' Perception (which I don't even want to hear.) |
Yeah, that makes perfect sense actually. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kris G
Dude you've been around for a while, how did you not know this? |
Missed it toally i guess, cool track.. glad he made it, it makes a lot of sense though it being a remake.. since i felt it was a surprisingly good melody for 2010. |
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| Nik Novo |
| quote: | Originally posted by stealthman
For those of you who still listen to todays mainstream Trance, I'm sure you would have noticed that most of the time half of the tracks tend be remixes of older tunes, not that there's anything wrong about it but it's reached a point where it seems as if todays bigger, popular producers have those moments where they run out of dough for their cookie making trance factory, so they'll shuffle through a hundred old random classics, pick one and make a remix out of it because they were short of a cumshot on a lazy Sunday afternoon. It seems to have become more prominent as of late.
Sure even way back in the late 90's producers would use samples from tracks within the previous decade and churn them into productions claimed to be their own but even then there was at least some sort of substance, or should I say effort of creativity applied to it. This is a subject I thought I'd never post here since I believe most of you conscious beings are fully aware of this already, however the motivation behind this rant derives from the listen I gave to some new Mark Sherry podcast, looked at the tracklist and found this:
Utah Saints - Lost Vagueness (Sean Tyas remix)
I thought I'd download the mix just to listen to that track in order to amuse myself. So I did.
It was the exact same remix Oliver Lieb made EXCEPT the kick was slightly changed to the Sean Tyas signature unicorn-cheese-grater-uplifting doof-doof.
How dare you tarnish Oliver Liebs sound and call it your own remix. :mad: |
I guess that Lost Vagueness is only a Sean Tyas Rework, of which there are thousands, which basically only add the tyas-kickdrum |
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