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ProTools HD goes native
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| Eric J |
All the features of ProTools HD without the expense of the Core/Accel cards. Only works with the new ProTools HD interfaces. The site even claims that you can use it with their high end control surfaces as well (ICON and C-Series). The website claims that you can use the HD hardware with any third party DAW software package that supports Core Audio or ASIO. I'm a bit skeptical about that claim considering Avid dropped support for Logic integration in ProTools HD 8.0.3 (?), but who knows.
Interesting that AVID has released a "native" product to market after years of clamoring from their user-base. It certainly signals AVID's acknowledgment that their DSP-based system might not be the wave of the future anymore.
Card is $3,500. Add in an interface at ~ $3,000 and you get a complete system for a fraction of the cost of a full blown HDx system. It's probably not a bad option for people who want to get into HD without the 5 figure price tag. Sure, its not going to perform like a full blown HDx system, but it seems more than sufficient for typical music or post setups. I'd probably be interested if I could be assured that Logic worked seamlessly with the HD hardware.
http://www.avid.com/US/products/Pro-Tools-HD-Native |
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| DJ RANN |
Wow, so it finally happened.
It doesn't surprise me to much though as I think the idea for a new proprietory system that required new hardware just wasn't going to be swallowed again.
Tbh, I think the asio/core audio will work. even if it does have some bugs in the first few generations, as I've always beleived that implementation was not that difficult just that digi stopped it from happening to own the market.
Now that processing power has caught up with the accel dsp (to a degree) it only makes sense that they make it available oy a larger vase. Don;t get me wrong, even the 16 core pro won't beat out a 7 card HD rig but at last it's welcome a start.... |
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| Mad for Brad |
| once they incorporate Sibelius, it will be better than any day hands down. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
once they incorporate Sibelius, it will be better than any day hands down. |
It'll never happen. They've barely incorporated midi in to protools let alone score capabilities.
The more I think about the more I think this is Digi finally following the market.
They seemed to have realised that the market is narrowing in terms of expenditure on proprietary equipment. Sure, there are still studios that will drop 100k just on the recording system but digi are going to clear up on the small or project studios with this.
It may also mean that logic finally gets the incorporation so many have been desperate for - I mean even just being able to use logic with Digi hardware is a huge step forward for the film industry where the platform are so widely used but had to be so separate.
When Lighpeak and the new gen of CPU's are porperly incorporated you can probably spec a similar grade system to an HDx for less than $15k, which is pretty outstanding.
I wonder who good the new interfaces are in terms of DAC...... |
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| jupiterone |
close but no cigar avid
the separation of certain HD features is still a major crock of , not even talking about TDM and saving cpu power |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by jupiterone
close but no cigar avid
the separation of certain HD features is still a major crock of , not even talking about TDM and saving cpu power |
I don't think that's actually true. AFAIK, the only limitations between HD native and full HD is physical I/O even though the same amount of internal tracks, auxes, etc, are supported.
In fact the only major issue is TDM which in fairness is a completely different thing though because it was always designed from the ground up to work with proprietary DSP cards as host processing wasn't up to the task so it will be a far more complex job to get the host to handle this efficiently. Even then, things like the altiverb (in multichannel mode such as 5.1) has to be split over several accel cards if you want reverb tails over 2.2 seconds.
So it really doesn't doesn't surprise that it's no viable yet, but I'm pretty sure it soon will be.
Oh yeah, and the only other thing is HEAT, but who gives a ? |
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| kitphillips |
Finally admitting defeat...
If only they'd make those HD interfaces support plain old USB and drop the price a bit, they might start to capture a bit more market share. I don't think they're making themselves that much more appealing with this move though, since project studios can get better conversion for less with other solutions.
What they really need to do is set it up so you can buy into the PTHD bandwagon for <2000 and then slowly accumulate accel cards and more I/O as you need it. The idea that most people have even 15k to drop on a system in the current climate is a bit of a fantasy IMO. It seems to me like theres a real dead zone in the market in between about 5k and 25k, which is where they seem to have put themselves. On the other hand, I could be completely wrong as well. |
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