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LoWahn
Hey guys,

I've looked around for this (via the googles) but haven't really found what I've been looking for; maybe you guys can help.

I'm looking for a comprehensive comparison on what advantages the different DAWs offer. I'm trying to watch as many How-To's as I can, screenshots, etc, and of course they are all %90 similar, but people obviously have favorites, and I'm looking to find out why.

For instance, they're features that I don't have in Ableton (currently using Live 8 Suite) that I'd love to see/use; but I don't even know if they exist. For instance, is there any DAW out there that would allow you to put all the midi input for all your tracks on the same piano roll? Would make making dub-style and glitch basslines about 10x easier for me. Also, I heard Logic uses a bus system for audio effects; I've read portions of the manual and understand how it's different, but the real-world benefits and uses aren't really listed comparatively.

I'm guessing the pro's here will probably tell me to either:
A) Read the manuals or
B) Just get all the programs and experiment

I see this question in 15 different forms on every forum I visit... I decided to post this on Tranceaddict since you guys seem to actually answer posts instead of just posting fodder about how I should do it myself :stongue: But basically, I'm looking to see if something out there already exists...

Because if it doesn't, maybe I'll start one ^^. :disbelief
floyd741
Though it may not be as detailed as you'd like, david.michael' Ultimate Software DAW Guide is a very nice over view. Mind you, it's a few years old but it's still pretty good.

However, if you're already using Ableton and like it, the only reason to go looking for something else is if you're really starting to get frustrated with it. I'm sure any features you think might not be there, are there you just haven't looked hard enough.
LoWahn
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Originally posted by floyd741
Though it may not be as detailed as you'd like, david.michael' Ultimate Software DAW Guide is a very nice over view. Mind you, it's a few years old but it's still pretty good.

However, if you're already using Ableton and like it, the only reason to go looking for something else is if you're really starting to get frustrated with it. I'm sure any features you think might not be there, are there you just haven't looked hard enough.


Ahh that is excellent! I'm enjoying Ableton, but it's more a matter of making sure it's right for me. The multi-plane views on Ableton sometime really bother me, and for some reason the Piano roll seems very basic (although again, I'm sure this is just a lack of experience talking). Also the lack of multi-monitor support is kinda baffling when it expects you to manage so many different panels...

I'll definitely pour over that guide though. Thank you for the link.
DJ RANN
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Originally posted by LoWahn
Hey guys,

I've looked around for this (via the googles) but haven't really found what I've been looking for; maybe you guys can help.

I'm looking for a comprehensive comparison on what advantages the different DAWs offer. I'm trying to watch as many How-To's as I can, screenshots, etc, and of course they are all %90 similar, but people obviously have favorites, and I'm looking to find out why.

For instance, they're features that I don't have in Ableton (currently using Live 8 Suite) that I'd love to see/use; but I don't even know if they exist. For instance, is there any DAW out there that would allow you to put all the midi input for all your tracks on the same piano roll? Would make making dub-style and glitch basslines about 10x easier for me. Also, I heard Logic uses a bus system for audio effects; I've read portions of the manual and understand how it's different, but the real-world benefits and uses aren't really listed comparatively.

I'm guessing the pro's here will probably tell me to either:
A) Read the manuals or
B) Just get all the programs and experiment

I see this question in 15 different forms on every forum I visit... I decided to post this on Tranceaddict since you guys seem to actually answer posts instead of just posting fodder about how I should do it myself :stongue: But basically, I'm looking to see if something out there already exists...

Because if it doesn't, maybe I'll start one ^^. :disbelief


It's not a bad idea and I think for EDM, this forum is possibly the best place for it to happen.

In answer to your question, no there isn't an update to date guide.

However, both Cubase and Logic allow you too see the entire combined midi of all your tracks on one piano roll, with different coloured bars for each instrument part.
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
However, both Cubase and Logic allow you too see the entire combined midi of all your tracks on one piano roll, with different coloured bars for each instrument part.


So does Sonar - and Sonar's (on the PC) much, much better than either of those entry level (like Fruity Loops) DAWs. /troll

But Sonar will actually allow you to view simultaneous MIDI.
Morvan
Download all the Demos and compare.
atxbigballer1
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DJ RANN
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Mad for Brad
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floyd741
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Originally posted by LoWahn
and for some reason the Piano roll seems very basic (although again, I'm sure this is just a lack of experience talking).

If only you were right but no, it's not a lack of experience, Ableton's piano roll is pretty bad. It was especially bad for someone like myself who switched to Ableton Live after having used FL Studio, considering FL probably has the best piano roll available at the moment. It definitely takes a lot of getting used to but I stuck with Ableton simply because I love working with it and in the end, that's all that really matters.

Mad for Brad
long time no see
LoWahn
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Originally posted by floyd741
If only you were right but no, it's not a lack of experience, Ableton's piano roll is pretty bad. It was especially bad for someone like myself who switched to Ableton Live after having used FL Studio, considering FL probably has the best piano roll available at the moment. It definitely takes a lot of getting used to but I stuck with Ableton simply because I love working with it and in the end, that's all that really matters.


Funny you'd say that; that's the exact position I'm in. I started on FL but after a few weeks of scouring the internet, came to the general concenesus that it was a "starting DAW" (although now, I definitely feel that's not the case; any talent should be able to make music in any DAW, the DAW doesn't make the music); so I switched to Ableton Live. The first thing I noticed was the lack of a glide option in the piano roll! It drove me nuts. Believe it or not, I still don't understand exactly how the pitchbend works now almost two months later hahah (8125 different positions? Really?)...

Sigh :stongue:
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