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| Maaz |
You can move to Brazil: it's sunny and there's a good trance scene (with everything else that comes from it) - well, drum'n'bass is more popular actually :)
| quote: | Originally posted by SportTrance
1000s, and 1000s, of immigrants still flock to this country, every day, every year...That really says something. |
Yeah, I agree, it does say something: some people have no self-respect :D Sorry, I had to say that, hehe. I believe there might be some good people in the US, I won't generalise. However, most Americans I've met so far were some real pain in the ass.
If you're American and you're reading this post, you might have understood that almost everybody outside your country is complaining about it: stop thinking that we've got some invy and try to do something about it! You guys should learn to treat other people right, not to pretend you're alone in the world. Despite of that joke, I'm trying to help, not to argue with all TA's from the US. |
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| SportTrance |
Thats over all a pretty ignorant post, from someone studying college foreign affairs.
Also, open up your history book a little......Perhaps then, you'll decided to take back the comment: "You guys should learn to treat other people right, not to pretend you're alone in the world"
For your sake, I wont even compare the contributions and the overall public benefit the United States has provided to the world, compared to the contributions of Brazil.
Putting down our country just because you've met a few snobby tourists, is just in lame........ |
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| ahlamalek |
| quote: | Originally posted by SportTrance
Also, open up your history book a little......
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well of course, history is written by the winners/conquerors, i.e. the US.
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For your sake, I wont even compare the contributions and the overall public benefit the United States has provided to the world, compared to the contributions of Brazil.
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coca-cola/SUVs/mcdonalds/US weapons/torture techniques/great dictators of this world/etc etc...
bla bla bla
if you want to know what the US is really doing don't read US media... |
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| DCaff |
| the cost of living is low in the netherlands? i only speak one laugage here so i need to go somewhere where people understand me. |
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| SportTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by ahlamalek
well of course, history is written by the winners/conquerors, i.e. the US.
coca-cola/SUVs/mcdonalds/US weapons/torture techniques/great dictators of this world/etc etc...
bla bla bla
if you want to know what the US is really doing don't read US media... |
Go ahead, tell us what we're really doing.....We'd love to hear what your anti-american propoganda has to say.
Stop acting like we're creating such hardships for your country for sake.......Maybe one day that country above the US, known as Canada, will actually get a spot light other than the sport of hockey...... |
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| quddha |
sigh, here we go again! lol!
| quote: | Originally posted by SportTrance
But for all you foreigners that dislike us, thats fine. You can knock our country all you want, we basically dont give a lol. 1000s, and 1000s, of immigrants still flock to this country, every day, every year...That really says something.
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LOL, ur the foreigner around here buddy. ;)
| quote: | As far as Canadians, well, they say we are arrogant, cocky, or whatever, and we say, well.....we don't say anything, we just dont give a damn lol.......
Maybe one day that country above the US, known as Canada, will actually get a spot light other than the sport of hockey...... |
thats right, thats why you're arguing SO passionately about this subject here on this board. :P Obviously you do give a damn, otherwise you wouldn't have posted. And who says Canada wants to be in the spotlight? Not everyone is a attention-hungry fame seeker. :P |
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| Eugene |
I'd like to interject in this discussion, because I certainly have a few things to say.
I've been living in the USA for about 10 years. There are a lot of good things about this country, and there are some real problems, too. Where this country really shines, is the opportunities it gives you to achieve your dreams and enjoy a high standard of living. For instance, anyone who wants to be rich and prosperous, really can be. Anyone can get a great education, there is religious and ethnic/racial tolerance (think of how diverse the American population is), and nothing stops you from becoming successful. The economic opportunities are great. And just an example: I know of no other country where having an accent doesn't surprise anyone, and is perfectly accepted in society. At the place where I work, there are people from China, Turkey, India, England... The standard of living here is one of the highest: e.g., food is much cheaper than in Canada and Europe, and people can buy a lot more -- a LOT more -- for their money. (A quick but relevant example: turntables are a lot cheaper here than in the UK, as I've found out.) People are also very friendly -- but there's a reason for that, as I'll explain later. Read on.
Now we come to the bad things:
1 - Conservative Puritanism. The American culture is very conservative, and ridiculously strict when it comes to matters of alcohol, sex, nudity, drugs, and anything "objectionable." There is a very powerful Christian Conservative party here, and the country was founded on the Puritan ethic. Examples: Ruthless and unreasonably strict censorship of TV (no nudity ever allowed) and even the Internet (this is being discussed now); the drinking and clubbing age is 21; there is a curfew for teenagers in many places; Colin Powell got reprimanded for talking with youngsters about condoms; and, of course, the infamous "drug war"... with raids, criminal punishment, and "Just Say No!" lessons in school. (Of course, everyone I've ever known has said "yes". Not to mention -- the average age when people lose their virginity here is 16. Funny how two extremes come together.)
2 - Violence. It's dangerous to go to the central parts of cities ("downtown") at night. There are many criminals, bums, etc. You can get killed easily. But this is related to the fact that people can freely own guns here. And in general, the friendly character of the people has been historically linked to gun ownership: When everyone has a gun, there's no choice but to be friendly.
3 - Foreign Policy. Nothing much to say here, I think it should be a little more globalistic and open. In the South, for instance, they have a special party that advocates America's "national sovereignty" -- that no one has the right to stop America.I think this is silly.
So there you have it -- good and bad. If a lot of people are immigrating here, surely that says some good things about life here. |
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| Jayci |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ray_Finkle
I need to find a country where the hottest it gets in the summer is 20 degrees celcius and the winter is always about -10 degrees celcius. I also need big mountains and tonnes of snowfall. If I can find this place than I will be on a plane with my skiis the next day :) |
Aw man, Vancouver's the perfect place for you! Hottest in the summer is probably 25-27C with no humidity. Absolute coldest in winter is -10C with no wind chill :) Tonnes of mountains, Whistler is just an hour away. Lots of other local mountains which gets a lot of snow. And did i mention Whistler? Its AWESOME! :) |
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| ahlamalek |
| quote: | Originally posted by SportTrance
Stop acting like we're creating such hardships for your country for sake.......Maybe one day that country above the US, known as Canada, will actually get a spot light other than the sport of hockey...... |
did I say something about Canada? I'm not egocentric like you, i don't think for my country only. I was talking about how the US is screwing the WHOLE planet as we speak now...
you've been so well endoctrinated that anytime you hear a critical point of view about the US you shout "Propaganda!"
Americans make the biggest propaganda and yet they shout "propaganda" at others...
welcome to Double-Think! |
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| ahlamalek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayci
Aw man, Vancouver's the perfect place for you! Hottest in the summer is probably 25-27C with no humidity. Absolute coldest in winter is -10C with no wind chill :) Tonnes of mountains, Whistler is just an hour away. Lots of other local mountains which gets a lot of snow. And did i mention Whistler? Its AWESOME! :) |
haha and no sun half of the year... always raining and cloudy. Its a nice city with the warmest weather all year around (in Canada). Though, it does have its hard drugs problems and ghettos... |
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| quddha |
Yes, The U.S. is very mutli-cultural. However, there is still alot of hate and prejudice that goes on. Not saying that it doesn't in other countries, but I think comparatively from my own experience, it is worse in the states than in Canada. I guess it has to do with people getting mad at immigrants coming to "their" country and stealing their jobs and creating ghettos, etc. etc. And in some area's its not very multicultural at all. In teh summer, here I live in a predominantely 'white' town. People here understand me no problem. Last summer, i tried out this telemarketing job where I had to call people in the states. I was calling people in Alabama, and for some reason, they couldn't understand me because I have a "thick accent"
first time anyone's ever told me that. :P
Which brings me to another observation, there is a very big spectrum in the general population of the U.S. in terms of household income. You got the super-rich, like Bill Gates, Donald Trump, etc. and then you got people living off welfare cheques and food stamps. I know, I spent 2 weeks living in the Bronx with my uncle.
However, I've had good experiences in America too. Disney World, whee!, great beaches in Florida. Big corporations providing me with things I probably use daily, tv shows, jerry springer lol, hollywood movies, and so forth.
So, I there's good and bad. I have no hate for the country, except I think its citizens over-react to criticism. Most of them can't seem to handle it when someone points out the faults of their 'perfect society' and they have to resort to name calling and the old "my country is better than yours because we have this and you don't yadda yadda yadda," which only helps proves the point of the critic. The critics aren't talking out of their asses, they say what they say from experience. |
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| Jayci |
| quote: | Originally posted by ahlamalek
haha and no sun half of the year... always raining and cloudy. Its a nice city with the warmest weather all year around (in Canada). Though, it does have its hard drugs problems and ghettos... |
Agreed about the rain :) Actually the drugs is all in the downtown east side. Hastings street alone makes Vancouver have one of the highest crime rates in North America, I hear. If you stay off the east part of Hastings, then its a pretty safe place to live. |
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