It's getting harder to innovate in the sense the more time goes on the more that has been thought of already.
Same with films.
I do still hear exciting tunes all the time though, like this that just makes me weep with envy in terms of how it can excite a group of poeple;
tehlord
My post was absolutely non genre specific as I listen to all sorts of music, and I also didn't mean there's nothing good released at all. Only a couple of months back somebody here introduced me to Neelix and it was a major ' me' moment.
The point is that for every one talented, skilled and more importantly dedicated musician out there releasing quality material there seems to be 999 complete and utter wastes of time smothering everybody's attention.
What I find hilarious is that I've been approached by at least two allegedly credible labels and several that i've never heard of asking if I wan't to release some of my stuff. I know for a fact that it's pretty average, and maybe good if you like that kind of thing. But also i've not spent more than 10 hours in total on each track apart from one or two, and therefore made no real effort. It should be more difficult than that. They should be looking for quality, not 'that'll do'.
There was a track over at another forum where the guy asked if it was release ready. It was resounding no as far as I was concerned, but he went out and got a signing anyway. What's the point? Nobody cares, nobody will buy it, and nobody will know who he is in a week or two (or arguably now).
I blame the immigrants.
theterran
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Originally posted by tehlord
The point is that for every one talented, skilled and more importantly dedicated musician out there releasing quality material there seems to be 999 complete and utter wastes of time smothering everybody's attention.
This feels like me most of the time :( (one of the 999)
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I know for a fact that it's pretty average, and maybe good if you like that kind of thing. But also i've not spent more than 10 hours in total on each track apart from one or two, and therefore made no real effort.
I blame the immigrants.
Least it's average/good for 10 hours of effort, and not mediocre after over 100+ hours.
-Edit- And with nearly 6 billion people on the planet, and music production getting SO much easier to get into because software is starting to match analogue (and you can pirate software, not analogue)...isn't that how you could expect it to be?
Same goes for anything really...I bet it even follows a bell curve...where the median is your typical average e...with less utter travesties on one end...but also less hits on the other..
Mad for Brad
seems like you should all swollow some sleeping pills. Maybe search backwards if you aren't finding satisfying music, There is about 200 years of music that will make you feel completely untalented and a hack in every sense of the word.
Richard Butler
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Originally posted by tehlord
They should be looking for quality, not 'that'll do'.
The better labels tend to accept a very small proportion of what they receive. The smaller ones with acres of cr@p releases - I cannot fathom thier appraoch.
One observation about 'quality'. Most fiim critics tend to praise small arthouse productions, often made somewhere a bit out the way like Peru, yet conversely most of the public will prefer a Hollywood blockbusta.
Mad for Brad
because hollywood blockbuster for the most part is a formula and the lesser composers but very little thought into the music other than to make it sound Hollywood. Bugt hollywood movies are cliches in themselves so what do you expect. Yes it sounds right but they aren't really making music so well suited for a movie that it could not of been any other way. There have been some great scores to come about. People have an attention span of 2 minutes when it comes to music. If they don't hear the hook or something catchy, they won't like it. Of course this is only when separated from the film. Good film music is completely transparent to the viewing experience as a great score is part of the movie. The last think you want as a composer is for someone to think in their seat, hmmm thats a nice little tune right there.
Critics are able to transcend the initial barrage of textbook chord progressions and analyze what the music is adding or taking away. And I wouldn't say all critics are that harsh. Powell always gets good reviews.
floyd741
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Originally posted by Seandroid
dubstep ... a lot of innovation.
lol
Beatflux
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Originally posted by Mad for Brad
seems like you should all swollow some sleeping pills. Maybe search backwards if you aren't finding satisfying music, There is about 200 years of music that will make you feel completely untalented and a hack in every sense of the word.
I have this app on my iPod that lets you listen to every top 100 from the last 100 years. Most of it sounds the same.
Kenny Rogers
thats because they are all Beatles, ABBA and Elvis songs.
Beatflux
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Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
thats because they are all Beatles, ABBA and Elvis songs.
No....
Rodri Santos
Labels are scared of signing something that is clearly different from the rest, and applyes to all the genres, if you make something innovative you and the label gotta have the risk that people might say it's crap and you'll enter a black list , or possibly catch the attention of the people (which imo is worth the risk) but labels rely a lot on people opinion about them and prefer to stick to something and retain their followers.
It's sad but a bird in hand is worth two in the bush
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by theterran
This feels like me most of the time :( (one of the 999)
Most of the producers I respect put themselves in that same population.
