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question in regards to synths
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| LoveHate |
so i have finally decided that i am going to get the nord lead 3
it was a long hard decision to make, but it was between that and the prophet 08
it will be my first synth ever, and my first major purchase as far as anything studio related goes..
so i was wondering, i would i be able to just plug this puppy into my computer and start playing with it within my daw?
or would i need to buy a soundcard and a amp to get it going, i dont have neither. |
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| Andy28 |
| Not sure if it supports usb, so you may need inputs from a sound card and a midi output. You wont need an amp.. Am sure some 1 on here can inform you better, a could be wrong, dont own any hardware. |
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
so i was wondering, i would i be able to just plug this puppy into my computer and start playing with it within my daw?
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No.
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
or would i need to buy a soundcard and a amp to get it going, i dont have neither. |
You need an audio interface with a least two 1/4 inch inputs and a MIDI interface with at least 1 MIDI out and preferably a MIDI in (to record automation into your DAW from the synth).
| quote: | Originally posted by Andy28
Not sure if it supports usb, so you may need inputs from a sound card and a midi output. You wont need an amp.. Am sure some 1 on here can inform you better, a could be wrong, dont own any hardware. |
For those of you who are inexperienced with hardware, USB interfaces are not common at all. They are a relatively recent phenomenon and very few hardware synths have it. Do not assume that any synth is going to have a USB interface, especially synths not manufactured in the last 5 years.
If you want to use most hardware synths (with the exception of recent workstations synths), you are going to have to interface with it the old school way, with MIDI and direct audio out. Oh and don't expect to be able to control your outboard hardware as easily as you control your software. You are going to need to learn about MIDI. Channels, ports and CC messages are how you control most outboard hardware.
The only USB-equipped ones I can recall off the top of my head and the Virus TI and the Little Phatty and a few newer workstation synths. The LP USB is really only for software updates, you cant control the synth through the USB interface. The "Total Integration" of the Virus is unique to that unit, do not expect to find it on the majority of non-workstation type synths. |
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| Andy28 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
Do not assume that any synth is going to have a USB interface, especially synths not manufactured in the last 5 years.
If you want to use most hardware synths (with the exception of recent workstations synths), you are going to have to interface with it the old school way, with MIDI and direct audio out. Oh and don't expect to be able to control your outboard hardware as easily as you control your software. You are going to need to learn about MIDI. Channels, ports and CC messages are how you control most outboard hardware.
The only USB-equipped ones I can recall off the top of my head and the Virus TI and the Little Phatty and a few newer workstation synths. The LP USB is really only for software updates, you cant control the synth through the USB interface. The "Total Integration" of the Virus is unique to that unit, do not expect to find it on the majority of non-workstation type synths. |
Thanx, I was aware of most of this, (google's great lol) great info though as always eric. |
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| LoveHate |
i havnt really dabbled to much into the world of midi yet.
really looking for something where i can plug in and go.
thnx for the info eric. |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
i havnt really dabbled to much into the world of midi yet.
really looking for something where i can plug in and go.
thnx for the info eric. |
The only synth that comes remotely close to getting this right is the Virus Ti. |
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| 4everX |
if you have to buy an hardware synth, buy analog, it is really useless buy a virtual analog synth now days, you could take a Komplete 7 instead :o
that's my opinion dude |
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| s_t |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
The only synth that comes remotely close to getting this right is the Virus Ti. |
yeah, took a half day or so to get ths virus working :whip:
but it is working perfect by now :)
But small interfaces aren't that expensive. So not such big thing. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
The only synth that comes remotely close to getting this right is the Virus Ti. |
Which is a sad comment on how bad the rest are isn't it. |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
Which is a sad comment on how bad the rest are isn't it. |
Well yeah, and to be honest I found the Virus interface to be more hassle than the benefit of the sound shizzle. I can't see any reason why it can't behave exactly like any other VST and open as many instances as I want (or the DSP will allow).
The 3-4 output multi midi channel thing is too complex for an old fart like me.
Solution
Add Instrument channel/choose Sylenth/16 instances/done.
Still, the Ti made me look Pr0 while I had it! |
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| G-Con |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
Which is a sad comment on how bad the rest are isn't it. |
Perhaps, but look at just how long it has taken Access to iron out the many bugs which for some people made the synth unusable. Literally years.
For whatever reason, it must be an incredibly difficult system to set up with endless potential issues.
Luckily for me, I have had no major bugs, only a few minor issues which were ironed out completely in os 3.0 :) |
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| evo8 |
I picked up a Nord Rack 2X the other week, had sounds coming out of it into Live after a few minutes, its not so bad
Different i suppose if you dont already have an interface with MIDI or audio inputs...
What DAW are you running? |
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