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Maschine 1.6 Update - Hosts VST & AU Plugins
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cryophonik
Yeah, you read that right. Maschine will host VSTs and AUs with the next update expected early next year.

http://www.native-instruments.com/f...ad.php?t=122599
aNYthing
quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Yeah, you read that right. Maschine will host VSTs and AUs with the next update expected early next year.

http://www.native-instruments.com/f...ad.php?t=122599


I was expecting them to do that, for some reason. You can complete an entire track on the beast - makes sense to make it a "one stop shop".

I haven't checked in a while, tell me - did they introduce 1/128 roll yet? I haven't been able to find it.

Cool news!
cryophonik
quote:
Originally posted by aNYthing
I haven't checked in a while, tell me - did they introduce 1/128 roll yet? I haven't been able to find it.


Are you talking about 1/128 notes and sequencer grids? If so, then yes, Maschine will do that.
aNYthing
strange... my only choices seem to be 1/64. Is it 1.5 update? I'm few revs behind.

Also, do u know if they fixed a bug when you dragged/dropped sample from Maschine into Ableton it would get warped and get all screwed up?

BTW, dunno if I posted this or not.. this was a gripe-poem I wrote back when Maschine came out, I think I may have to update it:


"Native Instruments, dear friend!
I got gripe your way to send
I just paid almost half grand
For Maschine that's not so grand.

Windows 7 doesn't know it
USB port - it don't show it
I installed, installed again
Not a peep heard in the end.

Here I sit all broken hearted
Sweating, angry, eyes are parted
Up all night and up all day
Screaming, muttering I pray.

Should I wipe my drive again?
Reinstall OS in vain?
Cross my fingers, hope and pray
That Maschine will play some day?

Native Instruments, do tell -
Why I paid so much for hell?
Why I get no simple joy
Mashing pads on this cool toy?

Native Instruments, please HELP!
Crash, install, and crash again!
To be honest, in hind-sight,
That's not "crash" I had in mind.

I wish it was oh so simple
Hit a button, hear a cymball
Plug a cable, off I go
Making beats in orange glow.

But alas, I am despaired
My Maschine has not been spared
By the demons of OS
Microsoft to blame, I guess...

Sigh, my dear NI Maschine
Bought you stupidly, once seen
And untested, I might add...
Should have bought blue synth instead.

Anyway, my poem's done
So much vested, money gone.
Guitar Center, those bastards
Told me to just play some records

Spin CDs, or play guitar
Here's a used MIDI Fatar
Here's a Kaoss pad instead
Burry it, Maschine is dead.

I give up. I'm very sad
My Maschine could be my friend
Gary Numan, man eccentric
Once inquired, "Are friends electric?"

If the answer is a "yes"
This "friend" - unresponsive mess
Black and orange, oh so tempting
But our friendship is at ending.

I will place you on ebay
Let someone try (and complain)
Maybe Matrix, seen my ditty
Will send Audio/DJ in pitty.

Maybe I'll have better luck
With it causing cacophonic muck.
Hey Maschine - YOU SUCK! YOU SUCK!
Still no answer. No "tick tock"
cryophonik
Nice poem! :) Sucks that you've had so many problems, though.

quote:
Originally posted by aNYthing
strange... my only choices seem to be 1/64. Is it 1.5 update? I'm few revs behind.


I'm pretty sure that it was introduced before 1.5, but I honestly have no idea which update it was in. Regardless, I highly recommend updating to the latest OS (1.5.1 IIRC).

quote:
Originally posted by aNYthing
Also, do u know if they fixed a bug when you dragged/dropped sample from Maschine into Ableton it would get warped and get all screwed up?


I don't know - I only had Ableton for a short while and don't recall using it with Maschine much, if at all. Maybe someone else here knows?
cryophonik
ATTN Maschine owners: the 1.6 public beta is available (so don't expect to see me around much for the next few days).

http://www.native-instruments.com/f...ad.php?t=128781

I'm going to load an instance of Kore into Maschine, then load another instance of Maschine into that instance of Kore. I'm pretty sure that will open some sort of wormhole and allow time travel. If you've got questions about the future or past, you'd better ask me soon. Oh, and don't worry, my first mission will be to fix the past so that Swedish House Mafia never happens. You're welcome. ;)

Current improvements/fixes in 1.6:

quote:


New and improved features:

- Plugin hosting for VST/AU instruments and effects
- Increased number of effect slots (3 per Sound, 4 per Group, 4 on - Master)
- New "Pad Link" function with 8 pad groups and Master/Slave option
- Individual swing setting per sound
- Clip naming
- Sample renaming
- Improved scene duplication
- External audio input/output increased to 16 stereo channels
- Improved Drag&Drop mapping for samples
- Improved Drag&Drop from OS for Maschine files and audio files
- Drag&Drop rearrangement of scenes and patterns
- Snap-to-grid when moving events via mouse
- VST plugin operation under Mac OS X 64bit
- Rex import under Mac OS X 64bit


djshire
quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik

I'm going to load an instance of Kore into Maschine, then load another instance of Maschine into that instance of Kore. I'm pretty sure that will open some sort of wormhole and allow time travel. If you've got questions about the future or past, you'd better ask me soon. Oh, and don't worry, my first mission will be to fix the past so that Swedish House Mafia never happens. You're welcome. ;)


:haha:
DJ RANN
quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik

I'm going to load an instance of Kore into Maschine, then load another instance of Maschine into that instance of Kore. I'm pretty sure that will open some sort of wormhole and allow time travel. If you've got questions about the future or past, you'd better ask me soon. Oh, and don't worry, my first mission will be to fix the past so that Swedish House Mafia never happens. You're welcome.


ing LOOOOL

Actually can you comment on it's integration a bit with DAWs? I prefer using a hardware controller for some programming tasks and now this seems to be getting close to an option for me.
tehlord
Has Dave been fapping over his own foresight?
Crayze4Swayze
quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
ing LOOOOL

Actually can you comment on it's integration a bit with DAWs? I prefer using a hardware controller for some programming tasks and now this seems to be getting close to an option for me.


you have to get an ipad. Then we can play risk.

tehlord
quote:
Originally posted by Crayze4Swayze
you have to get an ipad. Then we can play risk.


Killer app tbh
cryophonik
Well, I'm back from the past. I won't bore you with the details, but something went horribly wrong and, instead of offing SHM, I accidentally created something called a David Guetta.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Actually can you comment on it's integration a bit with DAWs? I prefer using a hardware controller for some programming tasks and now this seems to be getting close to an option for me.


It depends on what you mean. The Maschine controller is dedicated for the Maschine software and the integration between the two is seamless, whether you're working with Maschine in standalone mode, or as a plugin in a DAW. If you want it primarily as a control surface or transport controller for your DAW, I think you'll be disappointed because, although it has some limited control surface-like features tacked on, that's just not what it's designed for.

BUT, if you want it for controlling not only your drums, but also your soft synths, this 1.6 update will blow your mind. After you scan all your VSTs/AUs, Maschine automatically maps the 8 rotaries to each plugin's parameters (ala Novation AutoMap, but without having to create another .dll) and gives you up to 8 pages (depending on many parameters are available to the host) for a total of 64 parameters quickly and easily available for editing right from Maschine's front panel. You can see some of this in the video above and it's f###ing fantastic IMO! That said, I haven't delved too deeply into it yet and I can already see that there's some room for improvement, such as the ability to rename the parameters as they appear in Maschine (they default to whatever the plugin calls them, which is usually abbreviated, inconsistent between plugins, and sometimes cryptic [e.g., CtfFrq). I'm sure they'll get around to addressing that, though. NI has a very good track record for making their products (esp. Maschine) very usable and intuitive.

I may sound like a bit of a fanboy here, but there is no doubt in my mind that this update is going to shake up the market. It's taken an already excellent hardware/software hybrid drum module and turned it into a standalone hardware/software total production machine that can also be used as a DAW within your DAW - all with one FREE update. And, knowing NI, they aren't going to stop there - they've just opened the door to some crazy possibilities. So, yeah, I recommend checking them out (or at least buying stock in NI, cuz sales are probably about to go a bit nuts).

BTW, just for fun last night, I loaded Battery 3, Stylus RMX, and StormDrum II into Maschine and had about a dozen different drum parts going at once, then threw Artillery 2 in there to glitch things up. Yup, it sounded even worse than you'd imagine, but I had hands-on control of everything, my CPU just giggled at how cute it was, and never had a hiccup (aside from the intentional ones from A2).

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Has Dave been fapping over his own foresight?


In the future, yes. In the past, no. In the present, maybe.
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