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"The internet has power to unite people across limitless distance." (pg. 2)
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
But do you think that people act more like themselves on the internet than IRL? I think the argument could be made both ways... that some people act out how they really want to be (or actually are) when they're online, and some people formulate personas or alter-egos. |
I don't think either case is true: we're no more ourselves on-line than we're in real life (though a misanthrope would gladly disagree with me here).
We're, as a rule of thumb, a very situational species, and the change of one variable is enough to make us behave differently. Dan Ariely, for example, pointed this out in his book "Predictably Irrational" through a series of studies: sometimes very respectful and polite students would behave like blithering sex fiends in certain situation, and honest people that wouldn't ever steal money didn't think twice before nicking soft drinks that wasn't theirs, for example.
In this case, this is something even the Greeks knew. In the myth of Gyges (told by Plato in the Republic, in case you want to look it up), a shepherd discovers a magic ring that gives him the power to become invisible - and hence non-punishable. Long story short, he killed the king, swooned the queen, and became the new ruler. In this case, the only difference is that no reign is at stake. That's what happens when you're anonymous: you can do whatever you want. Though it can be a good thing sometimes (like in the elections), unless you're a truther who thinks the government is after you and/or a criminal and the government is really after you, there's no reason why you should always hide under a screen name. |
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| Scrittah |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
killed the king, swooned the king, |
Unfortunate implications. :eek:
Really, though, I don't think the internet so much as brings out a part of us as it does amplify what's already there. For example: someone who was big into practical joking or something would be twice as insufferable on the internet as they are in real life. A good friend of mine acts like an online, but offline he's only really annoying. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scrittah
Unfortunate implications. :eek: |
Well, he was Greek after all, and a drop-dead sexy one at that :D |
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| Chimney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I don't think either case is true: we're no more ourselves on-line than we're in real life
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I disagree. On-line you can be whoever you want to be, show a different side of yourself which otherwise wouldn't usually be associated to one's persona in real life. |
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| eckmek |
| I think we have to move beyond the myth that there is somehow someone we "really are" and someone else we are on the internet (or the other way around). Like Lira said, we act differently in different situations. The internet is just another situation, its just that it is so different from most other that the difference in personalities often is more pronounced? |
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| Arbiter |
| Wtf; ing plagiarism Lira! :whip: :whip: |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Wtf; ing plagiarism Lira! :whip: :whip: |
It can't be plagiarism: I didn't see your post until I submitted mine and I did some research that wasn't available in your post :D
(though I'm surprised we gave pretty much the same answer - that's not exactly usual :p) |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
It can't be plagiarism: I didn't see your post until I submitted mine and I did some research that wasn't available in your post :D
(though I'm surprised we gave pretty much the same answer - that's not exactly usual :p) |
A likely story! :p |
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| Theresa |
I am actually curious to know what the rules really are when it comes to content put out on the internet. If I posted an essay up or something, I most certainly do not want someone else using it for their own personal gain. Did the blogger not have some sort of rights? Or, is everything and anything we put out there free material for whoever wants it?
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I realize that other materials that are protected under copyright etc. have rights/protections. I am wondering about the regular jack and jill's who put things on the internet for their own purposes (blogs, forums etc.) |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
I am actually curious to know what the rules really are when it comes to content put out on the internet. If I posted an essay up or something, I most certainly do not want someone else using it for their own personal gain. Did the blogger not have some sort of rights? Or, is everything and anything we put out there free material for whoever wants it?
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I realize that other materials that are protected under copyright etc. have rights/protections. I am wondering about the regular jack and jill's who put things on the internet for their own purposes (blogs, forums etc.) |
It varies by jurisdiction, obviously.
In the U.S., you instantly acquire a copyright in pretty much everything you publish on the internet, as long as it meets the minimum requirements for copyrightability. But if you're a U.S. citizen, you can't sue for infringement unless you register your copyright. And you don't. That doesn't mean you have no rights, however. You can still sue for damages, if you can show any. You can also recover any profits that you can show were made by exploiting your copyrights. And you can obtain an injunction prohibiting further infringement.
Copyright registration is also not required before filing a takedown notice under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which requires the service providing hosting the infringing content to remove it.
If you're not a U.S. citizen, then congratulations! You get the full benefit of U.S. copyright laws without having to register, including the possibility of collecting statutory damages and (a pathetically small amount of) attorneys' fees. This is because the U.S. diplomats who negotiated our copyright treaties were ing idiots who deserve to be shot and have their rotting corpses dragged through cow manure.
By the way, I am not a lawyer, much less your lawyer, and none of this is legal advice or a substitute therefor. If you rely on it in any way, you're a complete moron, and should probably kill yourself, so if you really want to know your rights you should consult an attorney.
Oh, and this post is copyright myself, 2010. I do not authorize any copying of it whatsoever. So, if you should happen to copy it into your RAM or hard drive by, say, viewing this web page, you are an infringer, and I reserve the right to pursue all available remedies against you. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
If I posted an essay up or something, I most certainly do not want someone else using it for their own personal gain. |
i think you're safe. |
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| Ian |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i think you're safe. |
I think to be fully safe underneath anything she puts online, should be "if you steal this, im going to turn your balls into a kebab or puncture your ovaries" |
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