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Wa Wu We: Mixed by Sebastian Mullaert [mule electronic] (pg. 2)
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| woscar |
| quote: | Originally posted by yonny
Ben Klock - Berghain 04
Michael Mayer - Immer 3
Damian Lazarous - Fabric 54
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I've heard these three but wasn't that impressed, to be honest. Some parts of Damian's Fabric are good but the flow is all over the place. I know that's Damian's style, but I don't like it.
| quote: | Originally posted by ghostridenhuffy
Dj Yello - Paris Sessions
Osunlade - Occult Symphonic
Michael Mayer - Immer 3
Cv313 - Live at DEMF Afterparty
Dave Seaman - GU Lithuania
Netsky - Netsky (continuous mix)
Miika Kuisma - Progress of Soul
Moonbeam - Space Odyssey
Menno de Jong - intuition Sessions 2 |
I'm not really into trance, so I don't think I'd enjoy the last few suggestions, but thanks. :p
| quote: | Originally posted by Adam420
uh, no.
Oscar, I hear the Apparat DJ Kicks is really good. Also, Modeselection Vol. 1 looks great but might not be your cup of tea. |
Thanks man, I'll see if I can give those two a listen. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by ghostridenhuffy
What do you mean "uh, no". Woscar asked for mixed comp recommendations. The ones I listed are all quality, but maybe not everbody's cup of tea. |
Progress Of Soul is not a mix compilation. |
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| ghostridenhuffy |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Progress Of Soul is not a mix compilation. |
It is. Check iTunes. All full versions of all tracks plus the mixed version. Some tracks are more segued than beat-matched and others mixed traditionally, but gapless and mixed nonetheless. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by ghostridenhuffy
It is. Check iTunes. All full versions of all tracks plus the mixed version. Some tracks are more segued than beat-matched and others mixed traditionally, but gapless and mixed nonetheless. |
No, it's not. It's not a compilation at all. |
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| ghostridenhuffy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
No, it's not. It's not a compilation at all. |
A compilation can be from one or more artists. In this case Miika used his own productions- a compilation album that is mixed.
Compilation album
A compilation album is an album (music or spoken-word) featuring tracks from one or more performers, often culled from a variety of sources (such as studio albums, live albums, singles, demos and outtakes.) The tracks are usually collected according to a common characteristic, such as popularity, genre, source or subject matter. When the tracks are all essentially by the same recording artist, a compilation album is often referred to as a retrospective album. Compilation albums may employ traditional product bundling strategies.
Stop being so daft. |
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| hadi burpee |
It seems fairly obvious that he wasn't talking about artist albums.
| quote: | Originally posted by ghostridenhuffy
A compilation can be from one or more artists. In this case Miika used his own productions- a compilation album that is mixed.
Compilation album
A compilation album is an album (music or spoken-word) featuring tracks from one or more performers, often culled from a variety of sources (such as studio albums, live albums, singles, demos and outtakes.) The tracks are usually collected according to a common characteristic, such as popularity, genre, source or subject matter. When the tracks are all essentially by the same recording artist, a compilation album is often referred to as a retrospective album. Compilation albums may employ traditional product bundling strategies.
Stop being so daft. |
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| ghostridenhuffy |
| quote: | Originally posted by hadi ******
It seems fairly obvious that he wasn't talking about artist albums. |
Where did anyone mention artist album- either implied or directly? Artist albums and mixed comps are not always mutually exclusive, and oftentimes have overlapping content that can be described as a mixed comp and an artist album. An artist album is nothing more than a selection of tracks produced by 1 particular producer- it is also a compilation of tracks that can vary greatly in style, otherwise every track would be the same. Miika's tracks are all his own productions and it is mixed. I guess in this day and age most people interpret a mixed comp of various artists and remixers, but compilation defined can be a collection of individual works- either from 1 artist, or many. I've heard mixed comps that have all different artists, but the style doesn't change from one track to the next, so it is as bland as bland can be. I've also heard artist album's that are mixed like Moshic's or Miika's and I find it amazing that one artist can produce such a variety of tracks. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by ghostridenhuffy
Stop being so daft. |
Sweet, sweet irony.
It's not a compilation, not even by your standards. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by ghostridenhuffy
A compilation can be from one or more artists. In this case Miika used his own productions- a compilation album that is mixed. |
It is only a compilation by one artist if it gathers together previously released material or material from different sources. An example would be a Greatest Hits, a B-sides anthology, or a remix anthology. The key is in the word - a compilation compiles material from different sources. It has nothing to do with the variety of the music or whether it's mixed.
Miika has said on this forum that Progress Of Soul was composed as one giant piece of music and was all written in the same period, in the same studio and always intended to be heard together. It is not a compilation. |
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| ghostridenhuffy |
Look up the definition of compilation. This is it:
Compilation album
A compilation album is an album (music or spoken-word) featuring tracks from one or more performers, often culled from a variety of sources (such as studio albums, live albums, singles, demos and outtakes.) The tracks are usually collected according to a common characteristic, such as popularity, genre, source or subject matter. When the tracks are all essentially by the same recording artist, a compilation album is often referred to as a retrospective album. Compilation albums may employ traditional product bundling strategies.
Read this: tracks from ONE or more artists ( doesn't say that it can't be from the same artist who produced the tracks). What if Miika actually produced 100 tracks, and he compiled and mixed a compilation using 15 tracks from those 100? Also the definition says " often culled from a variety of sources"- BUT NOT ALWAYS. Did Miika make all the tracks at the same time- NO, so it could be called a retrospective album because it showcases tracks he made over the past 3 years. Miika intended POS to be listened to as a whole... Well, maybe that's how HE thinks you should listen to it, but doesnt necessarily mean that everybody will. If he truly wanted that, then he would have eliminated individual track names and T-marks, and made it one contiguous piece of work- but that is not the case. Each track can be purchased individually plus, the digital purchase comes WITH the continuous mix. Whether he or you think it is mixed or not is irrelevant. It is gapless, segued, and mixed. It is a compilation of his own work. I think when people use the term 'Artist Album' or album in general is outmoded. By definition, whether it photos, recipes, music, etc...but they all need to be compiled so they adhere to SOME type of theme that the compiler intended...if not, then it would be called a non-thematic collection of works, or various artists collection of works. Artist albums, for me, no longer have any utility because the definition itself impedes artistic expression- which I think is what happened with POS and many other productions. People have been conditioned to think that compilation means various artists, or that mixed means beat-matched. Maybe iTunes and other digital retailers need to define and market productions this way because it caters to the way THEY do business, but not necessarily how the artist wants his or her production purveyed and interpreted.
I would call this a Self Produced Mixed Concept Compilation Album- but what retailer would want to spend the time, space, and effort in labeling it that?
Here are various types of COMPILATIONS:
Common types of compilation include:
Single-artist "greatest hits", "best of", or "singles collection" LPs, gathering together an artist's best-known songs. If the artist or group continues to record, compilers commonly include one or more previously unreleased tracks as an incentive for fans to buy the album, even if they already have the other material on the compilation.
Other single-artist compilations, such as rarities or B-side collections, albums compiled from radio sessions, songs performed by an artist exclusively for a film soundtrack or collections that combine multiple releases, such as LPs and EPs together on one or more compact discs. These are generally aimed at existing fans of the artist and have little mainstream appeal, though postmortem compilations of unreleased materials from recently deceased artists have significant popularity.
Box sets, elaborate multi-disc collections often covering the entire breadth of an artist's career or the full sweep of an entire record label or genre. Many anthologies are released in this format.
Various artist themed compilations, e.g. love songs, Christmas songs, songs featuring a particular instrument (such as saxophone or piano), and countless other variations.
Various artist genre compilations, e.g. jazz, synthpop, rock, etc. These may be from the same time period (Year, decade or era, for example), or may incorporate a common theme. An example is a soundtrack.
Various artist hit compilations. This has been a very successful part of the album market since the early 1970s. Recent hit singles are gathered together in one place. In the 1970s, these were often single vinyl LPs with 10 to 12 tracks or more. In the 1980s, a double album with 6 or 8 tracks on each side became the norm. Now that CDs are the dominant format, these compilations are usually released on one, two, or three CDs.
Promotional compilations or Samplers. These are creative, successful forms of promotion for artists and/or record labels to promote their music. Generally, these types of releases are free or cost very little for the consumer or end listener.
Private label promotional compilations. Promotional compilation CDs can be private labeled for products, retail outlets, or commercial organizations or non-profit organizations. Artists and labels like to co-brand themselves with well-known brands for marketing purposes, and transversely well-known brands like to co-brand themselves with artists.
Business-to-business promotional compilations. Other types of promotional compilations are used within the music industry in a business-to-business capacity to promote artists to media concerns (radio stations, music supervisors for TV, film or video games for synchronization)
Composer/producer albums. Many hip hop and reggaeton producers will release a compilation album, which feature various artists. Every track on the album will be composed by the same producer. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by ghostridenhuffy
Read this: tracks from ONE or more artists ( doesn't say that it can't be from the same artist who produced the tracks). What if Miika actually produced 100 tracks, and he compiled and mixed a compilation using 15 tracks from those 100? Also the definition says " often culled from a variety of sources"- BUT NOT ALWAYS. Did Miika make all the tracks at the same time- NO, so it could be called a retrospective album because it showcases tracks he made over the past 3 years. Miika intended POS to be listened to as a whole... Well, maybe that's how HE thinks you should listen to it, but doesnt necessarily mean that everybody will. If he truly wanted that, then he would have eliminated individual track names and T-marks, and made it one contiguous piece of work- but that is not the case. Each track can be purchased individually plus, the digital purchase comes WITH the continuous mix. Whether he or you think it is mixed or not is irrelevant. It is gapless, segued, and mixed. It is a compilation of his own work. I think when people use the term 'Artist Album' or album in general is outmoded. By definition, whether it photos, recipes, music, etc...but they all need to be compiled so they adhere to SOME type of theme that the compiler intended...if not, then it would be called a non-thematic collection of works, or various artists collection of works. Artist albums, for me, no longer have any utility because the definition itself impedes artistic expression- which I think is what happened with POS and many other productions. People have been conditioned to think that compilation means various artists, or that mixed means beat-matched. Maybe iTunes and other digital retailers need to define and market productions this way because it caters to the way THEY do business, but not necessarily how the artist wants his or her production purveyed and interpreted.
I would call this a Self Produced Mixed Concept Compilation Album- but what retailer would want to spend the time, space, and effort in labeling it that?
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You don't know anything about the album, do you? He wrote it as one giant piece. It's only supposed to be listened to as a whole.
It's not a compilation. Stop being an idiot. |
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