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New system came and I'm getting 3 completely different CPU ratings.. (pg. 2)
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| Nightshift |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
I still don't get how EDM producers need all that power. |
Me either, I havent run into any problems on a dual core AMD Athlon 64 (2.6ghz) and 2GB RAM. In fact in my biggest projects my cpu barely peaks over 50% & i dont bounce parts. :conf: |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nightshift
Me either, I havent run into any problems on a dual core AMD Athlon 64 (2.6ghz) and 2GB RAM. In fact in my biggest projects my cpu barely peaks over 50% & i dont bounce parts. :conf: |
Agree - I'm using the same AMD (4GB of RAM) for last 8 months and never be happier, Ableton is working brilliantly with multiple instances of Omnisphere-Vanguard-Sylenth1 and more + FX on top of that and never have load on CPU more than 30~40% so don't worry Robby with your benchmark problem, start producing and I would like to finally hear this bass line you promise few months ago lol.
Cheers. |
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| G-Con |
I too struggle to understand how this new system can be . Maybe there are alternative setups of similar spec which will provide slightly better performance but what you have bought should be more than capable.
My advice would be to stick with what you have, forget meter readings, task manager, benchmarks and start making music.
You have a TI snow as well so surely this is helping offload some cpu.
I have a 2ghz athlon with 1gb ram and manage to get by. Admittedly things really struggle in the latter stages of a project and I do need to upgrade but I can't understand how your setup is not good enough. |
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| Kenny Rogers |
| do you use the echo soundcard or did you return it for some surround crap? |
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| Andy28 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nightshift
dual core AMD Athlon 64 (2.6ghz) and 2GB RAM. |
My setup is the same, (maybe even slightly slower).
I do end up bouncing and freezing towards the end but I manage, your new chip shouldn't give you that problem.
Like the other guys are saying robby, stop worring and just start producing!! |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nightshift
Me either, I havent run into any problems on a dual core AMD Athlon 64 (2.6ghz) and 2GB RAM. In fact in my biggest projects my cpu barely peaks over 50% & i dont bounce parts. :conf: |
| quote: | Originally posted by TL007
Agree - I'm using the same AMD (4GB of RAM) for last 8 months and never be happier, Ableton is working brilliantly with multiple instances of Omnisphere-Vanguard-Sylenth1 and more + FX on top of that and never have load on CPU more than 30~40%
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| quote: | Originally posted by M4B
I still don't get how EDM producers need all that power. A typical cue I do has about 60 channels at 48 kHz , 20 gigs of ram loaded and FX on almost every channel. I remember making EDM before dual/quad cores were around and I was able to manage.
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| quote: | Originally posted by Andy28
My setup is the same, (maybe even slightly slower).
I do end up bouncing and freezing towards the end but I manage, your new chip shouldn't give you that problem.
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| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
Same here. My Mac Pro has two dual core XEON processors, for a total of 4 threads. I've maxed it out before, but rarely do so these days. Intelligent distribution of resources in my projects have allowed me to use this setup for very large projects without much of a problem
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Does anyone else here see the pattern?
ROBBY: YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG
You now have several people telling you that your setup should be fine as they are able to cope on far lesser systems in terms of processing power.
I'm not having a go but from what I've learnt about your previous threads, there's some glaring detail, something absolutely fundamental, that you somehow always manage to not divulge or not think of or reveal. It's only after several pages in, after you've tried every strange and obscure method of working and threatening to take back the item(s) you bought, that someone points out to you actually it's because of some blatant user error, or sub-standard link in the chain in terms of hardware or software or bizarre workflow that you have causing the whole problem.
For you, using FL9, there should be no issues with that setup.
Also stop paying so much attention to benchmarks. I can count on one hand how many benchmark reports I've seen over the last deacde that have actual validity when discussing audio. Nearly all benchmark tests are based on stats for gaming or other non audio related tasks. They're useful as a basic guidelines but not much else and there's just to many other factors to consider which have truly dramatic effects on your overall system will perform.
You should pay WAY more attention to advice from users on here, who actually use the same software as you do and for the same purpose. You can read bull all day long on newegg and PC magazines but most of it does not apply or is useful for our purposes. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
Yeh I don't really know a lot of users here who use FL besides Kysora and the 1 or 2 other oddballs I see randomly around here.
I've done a lot of reading though and it looks like intel is preferable for the high levels of cache it has. The issue here is I have been a lifelong intel user, and upgrading to a 6 core amd I noticed at the same ghz rating the AMD are just a great deal slower. I was aware of that prior to buying the AMD I just didn't realize how much slower I would really be.
And I've already mentioned z3ta is my goto. I still don't understand why a 6 core processor can't handle more than 15 versions of it playing at the same time.
But I'm going with what Eric said which is sometimes when you buy newer processors it takes the software developers time to catch up, as it just doesn't seem like FL is using CPU as efficiently as it should. The AMD seems unstable, while intel never bounced close to as much as this.
And DJ Rann as far as you noticing a pattern you basically described every other thread on here no?
Frustrated user makes thread, people point out what he's doing wrong, end thread. I just don't like the way you try to portray it like I'm the only one who does this. Could I just buy sylenth? And likely not worry about exhausting my cpu again? Sure. Why didn't I? Cause I'm not fond of sylenth, all the synths I'm fond of happen to be cpu inefficient.
I wasn't happy with the AMD, I'm a bit happier with it now after using it in a genuine project setting. And I'll likely wind up sticking with it. I'm not sure what I'm doing different from everyone else other than using heavy synths, not to mention FL doesn't freeze and almost ever other sequencer out there does AFAIK.
Thanks anyway DJ Rann. If anything I've realized its just more reason to venture over to cpu efficient synths and its obvious if you see another one of these threads you're likely to have a stroke. =]
Seriously though I'm joking. Thanks. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
And I've already mentioned z3ta is my goto. I still don't understand why a 6 core processor can't handle more than 15 versions of it playing at the same time.
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So its not actually limiting anything for you, how about just making a track and see when you actually run out. |
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| owien |
same here i hsve a standerd set up to -intel dual core with creative soundcard 1 gig of ram - i made the switch from fruitys to reaper and found the time to learn the program well and think ahead if you want to get creative then bounce key parts map out or work in stages.
or get a mac and logic :p |
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| Kenny Rogers |
| who the hell uses 15 zetas at the same time????? i remember saying the exact same thing to a certain other member who had his mind upside down. it was a internal soundcard discussion, bitrate, samplerate, buffersize, latency and all that fun stuff. anyone remember lol? robby your not getting many more chances now before the bashing begins, im just saying. i doubt FL supports more than 4 cores btw, but thats just a guess. maybe just two too. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
who the hell uses 15 zetas at the same time????? i remember saying the exact same thing to a certain other member who had his mind upside down. it was a internal soundcard discussion, bitrate, samplerate, buffersize, latency and all that fun stuff. anyone remember lol? robby your not getting many more chances now before the bashing begins, im just saying. |
Yes, who could forget and don't you ing dare start that one again :p
@ Robby - Sorry. I don't mean to portray you as the only one and not every thread you do is like that but there's just been a few now that went pages deep only to find that it was something fundamental that if you had thought about it before posting the thread would not have needed to exist (or least stated it in the first place the discussion and subsequent problem solving would not have been such a battle.
I do completely get it - you like to experiment etc. but even this thread is a case in point of wasted time (yours and others) based on the original question and here's why: Who the hell does use 15 instances of Z3ta? Hardly anyone, if ever. So this thread and the moaning about lack of processing is about something completely theoretical and basically useless in practice or real world, and not an actual problem you're having with producing or your system being underpowered as such.
Furthermore had you stated "I'm considering buying an AMD chip for use with FL etc", PRIOR to purchasing, you'd have probably got responses saying i7's/intels are better/more efficient/FL is coded towards Intels/whatever and again, this thread would not exist and you wouln't have to find out the hard way.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go it's just amazing to me the amount of time you have on your hands to spend on these issues which, A) could be solved with a tiny bit of forethought and B) have no practical use, even though you think it's matters to your producing in some way.
It's just interesting to me, that's all. Sorry if I came down hard on you - I didn't mean to be rude or condescending. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
Thanks DJ Rann it means a lot to me to see that people are actually trying to have patience and explain things out concisely like you guys are right now.
And coming from that angle I can't argue that this is a waste of a thread. But 15z3tas honestly didn't seem that far outside the scope of what I would normally use. You figure 2-3 of those z3tas are comparable to all the fxs I will use in an avg project, then another 7-8 for the actual synth work. Maybe my estimates are wrong but I think rather than bicker/bitch about it I'm going to try to finish a track right now. And the fact is although z3tas my goto I'm obviously not using it for every sound in the first place.
Id still really like to show you guys what my tracks/channels look like because in one hand I think I'm doing the same as most of you, but on another hand I still feel like something is wrong (besides using cpu heavy synths/habits). You guys DID tell me intels were better, and that was my mistake for not understanding how much better that actually are.
Anyways I'll shut up for now, make a track, and I think if anything it would have been better to come from that angle from the start, rather than trying to estimate how many z3tas would be = to an avg track. That was stupid I'll admit. And like I said thanks for not coming off too hard on me. I'd love nothing more than to get past this issue so I can start complaining about normal like soundquality/mixing and what not. =] |
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