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9/11 first responder health care bill (Zadroga bill)
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| WittyHandle |
Can anyone offer any arguments on why this bill is being filibustered? |
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| EddieZilker |
| in before the17... aw . I seriously doubt he'd try to explain this. I saw that JS show on my DVR about two hours ago. Stewart is rightfully pissed. |
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| WhooCares |
| :rolleyes: the hypocrisy of the right..never fails to surprise me |
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| Moongoose |
Because millionares getting a tax cut is more important than anything else in the world, no matter what the cost. Havent you learned that about republicans yet?
2nd thing about republicans. If anything would make democrats look, good even if its in the public good, even if you were the one that suggested it in the first place, its probably a hideous spending increase that will make your clidrens children pay outrageous taxes on so it must be disposed of. |
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| EddieZilker |
| Essentially speaking, they were used as pawns. If the Republicans didn't get their tax cut for the wealthy, they could stall everything and make the Democrats responsible for double-crossing the first responders just because they didn't want to yield to other Republican demands. Pretty reprehensible, but I only wish I could say I was surprised. |
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| jonSun |
| After recent polling showing that 98.2% of all Republicans are pedophiliacs.. I think we should just ban the party all together. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
in before the17... aw . I seriously doubt he'd try to explain this. I saw that JS show on my DVR about two hours ago. Stewart is rightfully pissed. |
THis was already brought up in a thread last week. This was my response at the time:
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Ok I've done a little research. Some good arguments against passing this bill- for example, it is for a total of $7.4 billion, but nobody has any actual idea what the true costs will be, and they want those figures cleared up before allocating that much money. That sounds reasonable, considering it's basically a slush fund that would give $1 million to 74,000 people... people who already have received millions of dollars from the govt. thus far. Where does it end? The construction companies who held contracts carried insurance and that's who should pay, not the taxpayer. Something reeks of ulterior political motives here but I can't put my finger on it. |
BTW- the GOP already agreed to bring the bill back up for passage once someone produces legitimate numbers as to what the true costs will be. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Essentially speaking, they were used as pawns. If the Republicans didn't get their tax cut for the wealthy, they could stall everything and make the Democrats responsible for double-crossing the first responders just because they didn't want to yield to other Republican demands. Pretty reprehensible, but I only wish I could say I was surprised. |
Stop framing it the incorrect way. THERE WAS NO TAX CUT FOR THE WEALTHY (or any income group) in the bill. TAX RATES that have been in place for over 7 years now are simply remaining. Show me the tax cut the "rich" you speak of are now getting. Hmmm... looks to me like the 35% Federal Income Tax rate since 2003 for the highest earners is now at a whopping.... 35% after this bill passed! |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
The construction companies who held contracts carried insurance and that's who should pay, not the taxpayer. |
They touched on that in the Jon Stewart clip. Even if the tax payer has to pay initially for a subsequently subrogated bill to the insurance companies (all of whom are disputing the legitimacy of the illnesses while these guys die in bankruptcy), some measure should be passed so that these people are taken care of. Furthermore, that legislation should compel insurance companies to do more. There is no excuse for this to have happened; and to have been happening for 9+ years. There is absolutely nothing which can explain away this utterly reprehensible condition.
Got it? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Stop framing it the incorrect way. THERE WAS NO TAX CUT FOR THE WEALTHY (or any income group) in the bill. TAX RATES that have been in place for over 7 years now are simply remaining. Show me the tax cut the "rich" you speak of are now getting. Hmmm... looks to me like the 35% Federal Income Tax rate since 2003 for the highest earners is now at a whopping.... 35% after this bill passed! |
Semantic hashing about Republicans keeping a Bush Tax Cut in place doesn't negate the facts. Time and time again, the Zedroga Bill has been stalled and it's the Republicans with their hands in the cookie jar.
I am actually now surprised that you're defending this. I've read you typing some pretty insensitive , but, above most of it, this takes the cake. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
BTW- the GOP already agreed to bring the bill back up for passage once someone produces legitimate numbers as to what the true costs will be. |
That's like stating you'll need to learn to swim before you get in the water. There'd be no way to ascertain that without having something in place to do that. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
They touched on that in the Jon Stewart clip. Even if the tax payer has to pay initially for a subsequently subrogated bill to the insurance companies (all of whom are disputing the legitimacy of the illnesses while these guys die in bankruptcy), some measure should be passed so that these people are taken care of. Furthermore, that legislation should compel insurance companies to do more. There is no excuse for this to have happened; and to have been happening for 9+ years. There is absolutely nothing which can explain away this utterly reprehensible condition.
Got it? |
Do you get that the GOP already agreed to bring the bill back up for a vote and will support it once someone produces "true cost" figures, which were never done? The Democrats basically said, "We need $7.4 billion for this" and all the Republicans are saying is, how do you come to that figure and what are the true costs projections?
This was nothing more than political theater to paint Republicans as evil heartless monsters once again right before the holidays. This reminds me of the laughable nonsense that happens every 4 years with "The Republicans want to take away your Social Security, seniors!" and "The Republicans want to take away school lunches! They want to starve the children!" :stongue: |
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