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Hot new trend: abandoning hardware (pg. 2)
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| Fledz |
| I'm happy to take peoples hardware off them. |
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| cryophonik |
| I'm pretty surprised that more companies haven't followed the Virus TI model and developed more products that integrate hardware and software. Products like NI Maschine are *similar* in that regard, but, I recall thinking just 2-3 years ago that TI-type technology would be pretty widespread within just a few years. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by kevin shawn
I'm all software but I would like to have 1 hardware synth and a proper mixing desk, nothing too big but just some faders to play with. |
Mixing desk is one piece of gear I think I wouldn't need. Maybe if it had flying faders... Otherwise it'd just be too hard to work out where the faders were supposed to be in relation to the DAW's. That said, that new allen and heath board looks pretty awesome.
I'd love an API 2500 for the master, vocal and drum busses, a few nice preamps, a better mic, a FF800 or Lynx interface, maybe an elysia xpressor for versatility... Shadow hills mastering compressor would be lovely, but who has the cash??
I nearly bought an SH 101 the other day, but couldn't justify it to myself, even though the price was quite good. I'd love a xoxbox, machinedrum and/or verona drum machine, maybe a doepfer dark energy or an SEM, I have a bit of a modular fetish, they're definately cooler than your run of the mill minimoog...
I still have gearlust I think.
Also how on earth is this a new trend??? People have been progressively abandoning hardware for as long as I've been into production (guess not that long relatively). I guess its started to reach a real critical mass now that PT has gone native and people have started to realise that computers are more powerful than equivalent DSP chips, but I think a lot of the clueier people knew that a long time ago. |
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| alexlosy |
One thing which I don't think will ever be beaten is the outboard SSL Compressors.
I am still quite surprised at the amount of people who use outboard stuff though... |
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| Storyteller |
Personally I'd love to have some outboard processing going on at some stage but apart from that I'm good with what I've got inside and outside the box :).
Focusrite Red 3 would be nice :-). |
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| Raphie |
As mentioned before, i buy outboard where there is no real ITB alternative
Cryo, check the MOTIF XS of XF if you want Ti type workflow
got my MOTIF connected with firewire 16 individual outputs landing directly into Cubase |
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| evo8 |
I dunno, i still think people are buying hardware, one thing you absolutely cant beat hardware synths for is the hands on control, sooo much easier for sound design and tweaking stuff live in a mix
In saying that, i think the sound of soft synths is definitely getting better and better each year and sound quality is not so much a reason to go for hardware these days |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
I'm pretty surprised that more companies haven't followed the Virus TI model and developed more products that integrate hardware and software. Products like NI Maschine are *similar* in that regard, but, I recall thinking just 2-3 years ago that TI-type technology would be pretty widespread within just a few years. |
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| -FSP- |
I've never had hardware before, but I feel like I'm missing out. Maybe you hardware guys just don't know how good it is to have a sexy piece of hardware like a virus!
I do want a jupiter-8, and a sh-101 though.
I think the old "vst vs hardware" debates are over though because you can make good songs with either one. I do think that songs today sound way too clean, i personally like a little grit and hotness in the sound's colors. |
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| Richard Butler |
I do like having 2 hardware synths, one of which is a Roland Fantom which is great for just playing in fx type sounds live as the track rolls. The other is a boutique mid priced analogue beast called Leipzig which as far as I'm concerned gives me unique rising sounds for breaks where I can tweak various pitch modulating knobs to givbe very random and wierd tones.
The bulk of each track is software though.
My biggist hassle with hardware is the delay between hitting a note and it arriving in track. Causes me a lot of timing issues. When recording hardware I enable the cubase5 delay compensation and switch my RME convertor to 256 but there is still a delay. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by evo8
I dunno, i still think people are buying hardware, one thing you absolutely cant beat hardware synths for is the hands on control, sooo much easier for sound design and tweaking stuff live in a mix
In saying that, i think the sound of soft synths is definitely getting better and better each year and sound quality is not so much a reason to go for hardware these days |
Depends on the HW synth though doesn't it... look at something like the Mopho for example, and you'll know all about how poor the hands on control can be with hardware. Similarly, on the little phattys, its hard to adjust several settings at time, because you have to select functions with knobs.
HW doesn't always equate to good control IMO. |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
Depends on the HW synth though doesn't it... look at something like the Mopho for example, and you'll know all about how poor the hands on control can be with hardware. Similarly, on the little phattys, its hard to adjust several settings at time, because you have to select functions with knobs.
HW doesn't always equate to good control IMO. |
Yes good point, i think it wise to go for something with a good interface, i cant fault the Nord Rack 2X. |
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