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Couple of questions that ive gotten and need your help on answering. (pg. 2)
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| DJ Robby Rox |
I'm sorry but it seems if you read any other forum but this one this is the only forum that makes the claim there is no difference between analog and digital.
There are a ton of differences, analog is much warmer and dense. Digital tends to be cold and spacey, + abrasive. Not to mention that our ears evolved on analog, so its likely to always sound more pleasing then digital.
An analog recording corresponds the variations in air pressure of the original sound. A digital recording is a series of numbers that correspond to the sound's continuous variations, but the numbers have to be reconverted to analog signals before they can be listened to. No wonder analog and digital sound so different from each other.
People say digital can do what analog can and thats bs, because they are both made in 2 different ways. The fact is the majority of the people on this forum are poor, and can not afford legitimate analog gear, so they lie to themselves and everyone else around them hoping people will agree. All you have to do is go compare yourself. What the issues always comes down to is money, and if the majority of this forum had money to blow on analog synths something tells me they'd be singing a different story. |
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| ken_lee |
| my god, u play it back on mp3 anyway, which is digital. yes analog sounds warmer only when recorded on tape, cut to vinyl (which is never). analog is bull today. to add warmt put on some distortion, that is all. |
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| derail |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
People say digital can do what analog can and thats bs, because they are both made in 2 different ways. The fact is the majority of the people on this forum are poor, and can not afford legitimate analog gear, so they lie to themselves and everyone else around them hoping people will agree. All you have to do is go compare yourself. What the issues always comes down to is money, and if the majority of this forum had money to blow on analog synths something tells me they'd be singing a different story. |
You have some very strong viewpoints, Robby. How many pieces of analog and digital gear have you personally owned for a long period of time? How much personal experience are you basing your viewpoint on?
I have a couple of pieces of analog gear (a Pulse and a 303) and yes, they sound nice, but not nicer than my other synths. Each synth has it's own character. There are terrible analog synths out there, there are terrible digital synths out there.
I find it constantly amazing how often you "know" how the majority of people on this forum think, even in the threads where the majority are disagreeing with your viewpoint. It seems nothing stops you from "knowing" certain things and that's going to make your progress in music very slow. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
Analog sounds better sure there are ty analog synths but it will likely still sound better than even an avg digital synth.
I also understand that every synth has its own sonic flavor. But from a more holistic viewpoint the flavor of "quality" digital is still usually thin and abrasive. You have to finagle, manipulate, layer, equalize and distort just to get somewhat close. The flavor of analog is rich, dense, and gritty usually w/out all that bs effort.
Although sylenth appears to have closed the gap quite a bit, it still sounds digital. It doesn't have that airbending punch you would find in the pulse or moog. When you open filters theres no drastic swaying of your walls and windows don't vibrate. Open the filter on a moog and your house will fall down. =]
But seriously tell me that imitation cheese tastes close to real cheese and I'll agree with you. Tell me that different cheeses have their own flavor and I will agree with you again. Tell me that when you want to impress people, you serve them imitation cheese, and I'll call you a liar. Not only do different synths have a different texture, but good analog as a whole has a texture software merely can not replicate. If digital is so good, why is like every digital synth always hyped on how analog it sounds... when noone ever tries to hype analog for sounding digital? |
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| atxbigballer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
It's a trap! And SONAR is best at handling audio.
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No, Pro tools is sorry. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Not only do different synths have a different texture, but good analog as a whole has a texture software merely can not replicate. If digital is so good, why is like every digital synth always hyped on how analog it sounds... when noone ever tries to hype analog for sounding digital? |
Marketing perpetuated mythology. |
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| atxbigballer1 |
When I think of analog. I think of a Mixing board like the SSL 4000, Not a Synth!
LOL SUCKERS! |
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| atxbigballer1 |
| DJ Robby Rox, what analog synth have you played with? |
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| Atlantis-AR |
| quote: | Originally posted by ken_lee
2. analog sidechain |
I can't decide if you're being serious or not?
| quote: | Originally posted by ken_lee
oh and get better monitors. |
Again, I can't figure if you're being serious? Whatever happened to getting better ears?
Sorry, don't mean to impede on this thread, but I'll add more later. |
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| Atlantis-AR |
| Actually, there's nothing more I'll add to this garbage topic. derail has said enough and I thank him for his links which I'll check out soon. |
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| Mazin_A |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
It's a trap! And SONAR is best at handling audio.
Seriously, throw questions like this out. Not worth it.
Stop confusing dBFS with SPL. Of the 90 to 120 decibels you have to work with, you're in contention with yourself over the top three. Jesus, you must be some kind of moron. Tell you what. The problem is with your computer. You need to put it back in the box and ship it back to the manufacturer with a note which reads you're too stupid to operate it.
You'll need four liters of vodka and a Shadow Hills mastering compressor for each track.
Try panning it into a stereo channel, play it on a large format PA, and listen to the pain.
There is no difference. What you heard was the light from Venus being refracted through the swamp gas. You're asking too many questions. We need you to sign this non-disclosure agreement and stop raising questions like this on the internet, of all places!
It shouldn't cost any more than $6.99 plus tax and ought to have a Hallmark logo on the back. It should also have a funny drawing and when you open it it should play the Beatles version of "Twist and Shout". There should be something funny inside like, "Your age may have limited your mobility but at least you're not too old to remember this song. Here's shouting a very happy birthday, Grandpa!" |
If you just stopped being a retard and read the first post i made in this thread you would get why i posted these questions in the first place. We tried to get other producers views on these questions. The answers may be basic or straight forward or whatever but for people who are beginners, they can create some clarity and actually help them develop their skills.
Now that you've fed your ego with your previous posts drop the attitude and contribute something of value or none at all.
sick with this kind of behaviour, grow up. |
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| ken_lee |
u are perfectly right, it was confusing sorry. analog sidechain is a joke but sidechain could actually help him. analog could not lol. please anyone dont make this an anal(og) thread, we are all sick of it. when someone say analog in a serious way i almost puke. anyone mention analog again will never be taken serious by me again again, just saying all respect will be lost.
oh and I did NOT joke about getting better monitors. Theres no such thing as "getting better ears", you ears are at best when you are 13-14 years old. rest is experience, knowledge and the sound quality. seriously monitors are your most important gear, anyone who doesnt understand that are out of hope.
edit: this was a reply to atlantis btw. |
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