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List all the new albums you heard in 2010 (pg. 6)
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SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Simpleton is a word I'm assuming you are familiar with, due to how fast you chose that label for me


I didn't choose that label for you. Seriously, quote me calling you a simpleton. And then learn to ing read.

There's no inherent link between the word "way" with non-verbal communication. For instance, I can accurately say that the way you talk in this paragraph is rather poor in terms of spelling and grammar. This is a rather poor attempt to add some academic weight to a paper-thin argument.

And if I came in here and started chatting off about producing, you'd be able to deduce very quickly that I didn't know a damn thing about it, because even if I looked up some terms and tried to bluff my way through, it should be readily apparent I've no actual practical experience of the subject matter. And so it is when people try and talk about contemporary music they've clearly only the most passing familiarity with. I can spot the inaccuracies and the misconceptions and the assumptions clearly drawn from tiny bodies of evidence. It's like listening to my mother talk about music.
DJ RANN
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I didn't choose that label for you. Seriously, quote me calling you a simpleton. And then learn to ing read.

There's no inherent link between the word "way" with non-verbal communication. For instance, I can accurately say that the way you talk in this paragraph is rather poor in terms of spelling and grammar. This is a rather poor attempt to add some academic weight to a paper-thin argument.

And if I came in here and started chatting off about producing, you'd be able to deduce very quickly that I didn't know a damn thing about it, because even if I looked up some terms and tried to bluff my way through, it should be readily apparent I've no actual practical experience of the subject matter. And so it is when people try and talk about contemporary music they've clearly only the most passing familiarity with. I can spot the inaccuracies and the misconceptions and the assumptions clearly drawn from tiny bodies of evidence. It's like listening to my mother talk about music.


Well seeing as this is the PRODUCTION forum, how about you close this piece of thread and take it to the MUSIC DISCUSSION forum?
G-Con
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I didn't choose that label for you. Seriously, quote me calling you a simpleton. And then learn to ing read.

There's no inherent link between the word "way" with non-verbal communication. For instance, I can accurately say that the way you talk in this paragraph is rather poor in terms of spelling and grammar. This is a rather poor attempt to add some academic weight to a paper-thin argument.

And if I came in here and started chatting off about producing, you'd be able to deduce very quickly that I didn't know a damn thing about it, because even if I looked up some terms and tried to bluff my way through, it should be readily apparent I've no actual practical experience of the subject matter. And so it is when people try and talk about contemporary music they've clearly only the most passing familiarity with. I can spot the inaccuracies and the misconceptions and the assumptions clearly drawn from tiny bodies of evidence. It's like listening to my mother talk about music.


Whilst I enjoy reading many of your posts, and often agree with your point of view, I can't help but feel you're off the ball on this one.

Firstly, this is a production forum so the vast majority of posts will be about technical stuff. If any one of us wants to discuss music in general, we go to the MD section. So it is a little unfair to suggest that the people in this forum are too focused on the technical stuff and out of touch with what's relevant and contemporary. That being said, I would agree that it "some" people in this section do seem to be extremely narrow minded when it comes to the music they listen to and this undoubtedly will have an influence on the tunes they make.

Secondly, even if some people here are out of touch with the current scene, so what? Does that make them bad producers? My step dad plays in a band, has done for the past 40 years. When I mention any artist or band from the past 20 years, he has never heard of them. He only listens to stuff from the 60's and 70's. He couldn't be more out of touch if he tried. But his band is very good at what they play, which is their own material sounding very much like many bands from the 60's and 70's. Is this a problem?

I'm going to stop now but I'd like to hear exactly what your thoughts are on the fact (as you suggest) that people in this forum being out of touch and what consequences this brings to their productions or the type of production discussions they have.

So far, you haven't really explained anything other than suggesting that most of us here are out of touch. Tell me what is wrong with this (if it's even true to begin with)
SYSTEM-J
I know which members from here post in MD. I've seen them post there, I know what they talk about and how they talk about it. And I'm not saying this forum doesn't contain enough music discussion.

I don't want to put too much across in the way of value judgements about this. I simply wanted to establish something. If people are comfortable with what this thread implies, then that's fine. If people are uncomfortable with the suggestion, they need to ask themselves why. If people know (as you probably do) that it simply doesn't apply to them, that's fine. I think most people should know within themselves the importance of what they listen to on the music they make.
Storyteller
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Originally posted by Storyteller
Chicane - Giants
Chris Reece - The Divine Circle
Katy Perry - Teenage Dream

I think that's every album I bought this year actually...


And just before the big leap into 2011 I ordered "Skrillex - Scary Monsters And Nice Sprites". Can't wait to get it in!
Kysora
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I think most people should know within themselves the importance of what they listen to on the music they make.


er, why?

I just realized what this thread's actually about and gave it a quick read just because this statement alone is pretty absurd. Why do you care so much? And more importantly why do you think there's anything universal about the way people approach music, both in the way they listen to it and how they write it?
SYSTEM-J
What makes you think I actually care, and where did I claim some universal response to music?
SYSTEM-J
I'm going nowhere, drunkard.
DJ RANN
quote:
Originally posted by ken_lee
you are right about that :p


on both counts ;)
Kysora
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
What makes you think I actually care


Well then what is this, a thought experiment? If you were just trying to "show" us something about ourselves by implying we're ignorant to contemporary music, and this thread is trying to inform us of that, then you must think there's a good reason behind putting so much time into this thread and arguing with everyone. Which means you have to care on some level.

And no I'm not psychoanalyzing you, I'm just following things logically. If you didn't care you wouldn't be putting as much effort into arguing with everyone here as you already have.

quote:
and where did I claim some universal response to music?


quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The music of others is absolutely vital for creating your own. Absolutely vital.


I know that was a response to what someone said but that coupled with the whole point of this thread just makes it seem like you're out to prove that the people here don't listen to enough music. What I'm wondering is why you think that proves anything.

Unless you're just out to put a couple people's feet in their mouths because of whatever was said in that dubstep thread. I never once went there seeing as I really ing hate dubstep, so maybe I'm just not understanding the underlying meaning behind this, but if that's the whole point of this then I take back what I said and agree with Robbie, this thread shouldn't be here

Seandroid
Deadmau5 - 4x4 = 12
Moguai - We Ar Lyve
Clubroot - Ii - Mmx
Kaskade - Dynasty
Lights - The Listening
Robyn - Body Talk 1, 2 and 3.
Skrillex - Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites
The Chemical Brothers - Further
Daft Punk - Tron Legacy

There are probably more.

WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

:P
DJ RANN
quote:
Originally posted by Kysora
Well then what is this, a thought experiment? If you were just trying to "show" us something about ourselves by implying we're ignorant to contemporary music, and this thread is trying to inform us of that, then you must think there's a good reason behind putting so much time into this thread and arguing with everyone. Which means you have to care on some level.

And no I'm not psychoanalyzing you, I'm just following things logically. If you didn't care you wouldn't be putting as much effort into arguing with everyone here as you already have.





I know that was a response to what someone said but that coupled with the whole point of this thread just makes it seem like you're out to prove that the people here don't listen to enough music. What I'm wondering is why you think that proves anything.

Unless you're just out to put a couple people's feet in their mouths because of whatever was said in that dubstep thread. I never once went there seeing as I really ing hate dubstep, so maybe I'm just not understanding the underlying meaning behind this, but if that's the whole point of this then I take back what I said and agree with Robbie, this thread shouldn't be here


Well said. This thread WAS created (I beleve the quote was something like "I'll start a thread to confirm my assumptions") for that very reason.

By itself it's not a bad idea to ask here as there's many people producing different music and could lead on to other suggestions that many of us might not have otherwise known about, but from what i can see the thread was started for petty and frankly childish reasons, in which case it should be deleted or moved to the c0r.
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