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| DaveT |
While the parents are right in that actions could have been to prevent her from getting in, they have to at least accept responsibility as parents too. Responsible parents raise responsible kids. Unresponsible parents raise kids unresponsible kids. Even at 15. If my 15yr old is out with friends, I'd make sure I know where she was and not base it on what I'm told. The parents of a 15yr old should know where their kids are at all times. And always make sure there's adult supervision. If they don't do that, that's the parents fault. Not the kids, nor anyone else's.
In todays world and especially in todays culture in SoCal, just letting your 15yr old run off with friends w/o knowing where they were going with confidence is irresponsible.
Any argument given by anyone is nothing more than an excuse to cover up for their own inactions.
The worst thing about this is that instead of being proactive in trying to change how things are operated, they just go after money.
Which I think just shows the type of parents they really are.
It's a horrible situation. Money will not bring their daughter back. No amount of money will ever cover up that fact.
Shame on them for the route they are taking. There are better ways to go about making sure this doesn't happen again, but it's obviously not about that. It's about their own greed and using their daughter as an opportunity to use it.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/l...,0,605924.story
Family files claim over teen's death after a rave
They accuse L.A. Memorial Coliseum management of failing to ensure safe conditions at last summer's two-day Electric Daisy Carnival. Sasha Rodriguez, 15, died of a drug overdose after collapsing at the rave.
By Rong-Gong Lin II, Los Angeles Times
January 3, 2011
The parents of 15-year-old Sasha Rodriguez, who died of an ecstasy overdose after attending a rave, have filed a claim against the management of the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.
The parents are seeking $5 million in damages from the Coliseum Commission.
The claim, filed Dec. 23 with both the city and county of Los Angeles, is a necessary step before suing in court. The claim says the commission, a joint state, city and county board, did not fulfill its "duties and was negligent in creating and/or allowing others to create a dangerous condition of public property" during the two-day Electric Daisy Carnival rave at the Coliseum in June.
Sasha Rodriguez, a high school student and drill team member from Atwater Village, was able to get into the event despite the 16-and-over age requirement advertised by Los Angeles-based Insomniac Events, the producer of the rave. Those under 16 needed a parent or guardian to attend, according to the event's website. Sasha attended with friends; her parents have said they did not know she was going to a rave.
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She died days after falling into a coma after attending the rave.
The Coliseum "knew, or should have known, that the rave would attract, promote, encourage, facilitate and enable widespread illegal and illicit activity, including but not limited to the possession, sale and consumption of illicit drugs," the claim says.
The Coliseum Commission also "knew, or should have known, that the rave would attract minors under the age of majority … yet it failed to enforce such minimum age requirement," the claim said.
Patrick Lynch, general manager of the Coliseum, said in an e-mail Thursday that he was out of the office and unaware of the claim, and so was unable to comment.
In November, in a controversial vote, the commission lifted its moratorium on raves — all-night dance parties featuring electronic music. A month later, it voted to require rave promoters to come before the panel at least 60 days in advance of an event for approval.
"We're going to limit whatever abuses take place," Commissioner David Israel said at the December meeting.
The Electric Daisy Carnival rave, which drew 185,000 people over two days, resulted in 120 people being taken to local hospitals, mostly for drug intoxication. Coliseum managers said there were no major problems at subsequent raves Aug. 21 and Oct. 23, which attracted 6,000 and 22,000 people, respectively. A New Year's Eve rave, Together as One, at the Sports Arena resulted in 25 arrests and 17 hospitalizations.
All three raves that took place after the June event had been scheduled before the rave moratorium enacted after the teen's death.
The L.A. Memorial Coliseum and Sports Arena relies on raves for 28% of its revenue, according to a consultant report filed to the commission in July.
Commissioners said they were not driven by the bottom line when they voted to continue holding raves at the public facility. Some expressed worry that raves would be forced into unregulated "back alleys" if no longer allowed at the Coliseum or Sports Arena.
Israel said commissioners weighed both public safety and free-speech concerns, and said recommendations from the county Department of Public Health would be enacted to ensure safety and reduce risk at future events. Among the recommendations: strictly enforcing an 18-and-over age limit, adding security and drug searches, and hiring medical staff to work at the raves.
Another publicly owned facility took a different approach. The state-run Cow Palace in Daly City, south of San Francisco, banned raves in November, citing numerous drug and alcohol overdoses at recent events, including two deaths following a rave in May.
On Dec. 22, Assemblywoman Fiona Ma (D-San Francisco) introduced a bill to ban raves at publicly owned venues. Ma cited a study that found many teenagers attending raves use "club drugs" such as ecstasy, GHB, methamphetamine and LSD.
Rave promoters denounced the legislation as heavy-handed.
Steven Archer, a lawyer representing Sasha's parents, Grace Rodriguez and Leonard Contreras, said the claim does not seek any injunction that would ask a judge to stop raves at the facility.
"However, one of the collateral results of a successful lawsuit may be a change in policy of the Coliseum Commission to further control or limit raves," Archer said. "It's not our goal to limit them … but when the Coliseum Commission is called upon to pay monetary damages to this family for what happened to their daughter, maybe by hitting them in the pocketbook, the Coliseum Commission will have its eyes opened."
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| anomalies |
| Since when should poor parenting be rewarded? |
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| fantasyexctasy |
| I wish there was a bookie that would take bets on this because there is no way in hell they're going to win this in court |
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| DaveT |
| I could easily see them winning this if the right jury is chosen. This is america, where people win millions for the stupidest things like spilling hot stuff on them. |
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| element-y |
Please dont win.
I was raving at the age of 12. family knew as well. With me, the music is like any other form of music. Though could be cause its a foreigner thing. But parents trusted me, and what do you know - i am still alive. Its up to the kid to be responsible in the end. Dont blame the parents or society or the promoters or the music type. I saw a hell of a lot of stupid morons when i was 12. Did i want to imitate them - HELL NO. I laughed then and laugh at them now. Way i see it - natural selection. Please elect me for Jury. Im so impartial.... |
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| Tosh |
The kids will OD on drugs no matter where they are. Thats the bad thing about raves becoming popular culture, the larger the crowd, the more problems you will have.
These parents failed here.... Long before the daughter died |
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| KarenLuvs2Party |
just over the weekend.. we were discussing Sasha's parent's stint on Dr. Phil.. these pple just want $..bottom line
people these days need to be parents to their children and stop trying to be their bff..
i remember before when you were young.. you had to call ur parents constantly and they made sure you had plenty of quarters to use the payphone if necessary.. and that was just during the afternoons at the mall!!!..
now all i see kids do is text their parents.. like that really will reassure them of their whereabouts and safety... :rolleyes: |
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| mimikish |
| quote: | Originally posted by element-y
Please dont win.
I was raving at the age of 12. family knew as well. With me, the music is like any other form of music. Though could be cause its a foreigner thing. But parents trusted me, and what do you know - i am still alive. Its up to the kid to be responsible in the end. Dont blame the parents or society or the promoters or the music type. I saw a hell of a lot of stupid morons when i was 12. Did i want to imitate them - HELL NO. I laughed then and laugh at them now. Way i see it - natural selection. Please elect me for Jury. Im so impartial.... |
The problem though is all these kids see each other and want to do the same thing or go another step above them. We have seen it time and time again with these ING RETARD LOSERS that jump fences, push down everyone to get through, etc... they ruin everything for everyone. They don't give a about anyone but themselves. Sorry this girl died but it's her own dumbass fault for being a disobedient child and lying to her parents about her whereabouts.
That is exactly what this girl did, she didn't give a about anyone but herself and now she is dead and we are all having to pay for it..
I heavily agree with the natural selection comment, however these idiots are going to take out much more with them in the process. |
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| DjWoody |
I can see what you guys are saying, but Insomniac & Go Ventures did the same . They didn't learned their lesson after EDC, they only made sure MM went out without a hitch, but with TAO, it was EDC all over again. The promoters knew the mess they're getting into.
Again, after being advertised as an 18+ there were no ID checks whatsoever. That's asking for trouble. At MM, Go Ventures had ABC checking ID's and they were turning away a lot of people. Not this time.
Do you remember what happened at Love Parade? Let me remind you, a bunch of people died because they were stuck in the tunnel. If someone would've freaked out like they did at LP, the same would've happened at TAO. Where the general admission line was, it was a long stretch/alley that you can only go in and out from front and back. It was so crowded there, that people were getting smashed so hard. Police and security were basically non-existent there. It was an accident waiting to happen. I saw people jumping the containers again.
Than, once you were inside and you went into the arena, the hallways where the bathrooms are upstairs were crowded just like that. Long tunnel with only and entrance and an exit.
Main stage was extremely crowded. People were crushing each other. I saw security from behind the barriers on the main stage literary grab people and pull them out of the crowd and into the safe zone behind the barriers.
It seemed like the only safe place to be at was on the Arena floor. It wasn't crowded there at all. Why is it that they managed MM to go without a hitch but TAO was EDC all over again? I've been to countless raves at the Sports Arena/Coliseum and I've never seen any major issues like this until EDC and TAO. Something is failing and it needs to be fixed quickly before we all have to pay for it. |
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| DaveT |
You realize they are going after the Coliseum management, and not Insmoniac, correct?
Anyhow, I don't have an issue with them placing some blame on the management or even Insomniac because, yes, more could have been and should have been done. I just believe the parents are doing nothing to accept any responsibility themselves. If they did, they would be proactive to force changes so it doesn't happen to anyone else and not just going after some cash for themselves. |
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| eowyn797 |
i don't think there's anything Insomniac or the Collesium could have done to keep that kid from dying of an overdose. If it didn't happen at EDC, it was gonna happen somewhere else.
ID checks and 18+ forever would we great. I wish they'd keep enforcing that. And there are HEAPS of freakin' safety measures they could take to what happened at LoveParade from happening.
This case sends the wrong message. Where is personal responsibility anymore? For every Sasha there are tens of thousands of others who DON'T die, doing exactly the same drugs at exactly the same events. Gee I wonder what the deciding factor is... 'cause venue certainly aint' it. |
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| Jim Carson |
| quote: | Originally posted by eowyn797
i don't think there's anything Insomniac or the Collesium could have done to keep that kid from dying of an overdose. If it didn't happen at EDC, it was gonna happen somewhere else.
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Exactly. I read there was a 24-year-old male at a rave in LA last year who did cocaine and ecstasy at the rave and then went home and injected himself with a fatal dose of heroin. He didn't die because he was at a rave or by the substances he took at the rave. He died because of what he chose to do afterward at his home unrelated to the rave. Are parents going to start suing schools if their kids go to class high and die on campus? Will rock and hip hop concerts be targeted? Where does it all end?
I understand the parents are hurting and it is painfully tragic to lose someone you love. You want to place the blame on someone. I know I have asked myself in similar situations, "Why didn't this or that person do something to save [so and so's] life?" It's a natural human response. First you go through denial and disbelief, pleading with God to bring the person back, then sadness and anger, grief, acceptance, etc. It sucks. It really sucks. I feel for the family. Still, no amount of precaution could have been taken by the Coliseum to prevent this from happening. It would have happened at an underground house party if it didn't happen at the Coliseum. You have to be careful with the company you choose and what water bottles you choose to drink out of. You have to accept personal responsibility for what you choose to put into your body. The family has to accept the fact that this was an accident and not the result of negligence on the part of the Coliseum. Gary Coleman fell down a set of stairs at his home... is his family going to sue the manufacturer of his home? I don't think so. This lawsuit is exploitative and a waste of the legal system. |
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