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What software do famous producers use? (pg. 6)
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| music2dance2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by CalebGolston
Yes, good point. However, I have studied the paths of several of the top DJs and I think Armin van Buuren is where he is because of one massive innovation: a weekly trance radio show (not his productions or live gigs). I think he was also the first DJ to really get a big internet following.
Earlier than that, it seemed that DJs could become DJs without being a producer, such as John Digweed, Sasha, Carl Cox, Pete Tong, Tall Paul, ect. All of those guys were huge way before they put out top notch songs. Even Oakenfold to an extent became a good producer later.
NOW, it is impossible to become a DJ if you are not a producer first. And this always strikes me as funny, because the 2 are unrelated to me. A good DJ is about an ear for good music first (the tracklist) the programming second (good intro, middle, end) and somewhere down the line technical ability is nice. To me perfectly mixing the beatport top ten is not being a DJ. My theory to why you can't DJ unless you produce, is that it is a Harvesting Effect. It is way easier to be a good DJ than good Producer.
Just my thoughts. |
Yep its all changed now, and its natural for this to happen. When I 1st started DJ-ing making tracks wasnt a requirement but nowadays unless you have some unique skill to showcase on the decks it is almost a requirement to make beats to get yourself recognised. The fact that software is available everywhere has contributed to this, unlike the days of mainly expensive hardware, and the internet/file sharing/easy to contact a global market/digital labels etc etc. Plus the fact years ago everyone wanted to DJ, now everyone whats to produce. Two to are related, but they are not something that you have to do together. Being a DJ helps you understand the structure of tracks if you want to produce.
DJ-ing is definately easier than producing music, thats obvious from the start though.
Regarding AVB you are right ASOT def helped him to grow and gain popularity. |
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| CalebGolston |
Only thing I would debate, I think 90% of people want to be DJs and 10% producers. I imagine most people try producing for a year realise it is next to impossible and give up. Also, ironically, I think it is easier for people to give your productions a chance, becuase it is so easy to tell in 30 seconds if they are good or not. Wheras a DJ set takes a long time to know.
Also, I am not implying being a Sasha or Digweed at their peak is easy. Creating an amazing flawless set is really hard. Putting together a good set though, is not very hard at all. |
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| Mad for Brad |
| i started off producing. Djing didn't really make sense to me as I had a traditional music background and I wanted to make music. I only started djing as it looked so easy and it was really just to prove it and I was right. |
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| CalebGolston |
| I think the hardest part of being a DJ is the travelling :) |
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| Rodri Santos |
i'm one of those that starting producer because saw that you can't solo dj unless you have an amazing network of contacts (djing is all about contacts don't forget this) , it's not that i don't like creating my own music, i love it, but producing is a bit exhasperating and the current music industry means deadlines, producing on rush... hell i don't like this.
I don't want to spend every single free minute of my life sitting in front of a computer producing, i like to take time for music and produce when i am inspired, i should be on this forums less time, that should improve my game a lot too, i learn things here but well 5 days on a row and i didn't even opened the daw, true that i've made 2 tracks in january but this is not very much i guess. |
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| CalebGolston |
| A legit release a month is pretty decent I think. If you have 2 that is really good pacing. |
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| johncannons1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by CalebGolston
I think the hardest part of being a DJ is the travelling :) |
i found the hardest thing about DJing is playing music you dont wanna play or hear. You have to do that though because its not what you want its what the crowd wants.
This one gig i played on this cruise ship on sydney harbour.. just when sexy bitch came out.
I held off a little from playing it.. i did play it and then half way through some wasted people came n said oh can you play it againnn pleassse.
I said the song hasnt even ing finished!!!
arrrgghhh :whip: :whip:
experiances like that help my decision to stop DJing and focus on producing.. i think i will get back into it when i can play music i want i.e TRANCE! |
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| ken_lee |
| quote: | Originally posted by CalebGolston
I think the hardest part of being a DJ is the travelling :) |
and the late nights! |
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| CalebGolston |
To be honest, I am not big on 'the crowd' aspect. A good DJ knows more about music than the crowd does and should have some level of authority in chosing the mood. The way I see it you have worked hard to get to that point and they are coming to see you do your thing.
I have been on a Sydney harbour cruise at night (it wasn't a party) and it was spectacular. Also, I love how there are all these small islands with docks around the harbour. What a city! |
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| Andy28 |
| quote: | Originally posted by CalebGolston
To be honest, I am not big on 'the crowd' aspect. |
Me neither.
If they dont like it then they shouldn't be in that club, but tbh where I play people know what to expect, to an extent, its why they turn up in the first place, they know what they are guna get....
Skullcrushing hardcore :toothless
Alot of the big name Dj's tend to play a hell of alot of stuff from there own labels or "circles" anyway so a think "reading the crowd" don't really happen much unless the crowd is booing or chanting "rubbish" (seen it done with Pete Tong lol) then you do have to do something about it. |
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| CalebGolston |
| Yeah, honestly, the big DJs play there label, that's it. That isn't reading the crowd. But it also isn't creating a worthwile meaningful set either. I did hear an Above and Beyond Essential Mix a couple years ago that was all Anjuna but diverse enough it was awesome. It was only and hour though. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by music2dance2
Being a DJ helps you understand the structure of tracks if you want to produce.
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No it doesn't. |
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