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Does the Beatport top 10/100 accuratley represent what people want to listen to? (pg. 3)
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arskinetica
What charts electronic music amongst the general public then? (Besides Billboard)
Lolo
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Originally posted by kitphillips

Safety has a lot to do with it, the tracks that succeed in the short term are the ones that the largest number of people like on average, not the tracks that one or two people absolutely love.


...Which leads to that same question again. Do people still have a heart when they make music?

FYI Beatport charts are not reflecting actual sales. Who cares after all, who needs a chart to buy or like music anymore.
Raphie
True and otherwise just do the same thing as the majors on Beatport, buy "hero shots" at the landing pages, all those "highlights" and "editorials" are actually being paid for. If i shell out 5K, i will be featured next to SHM, UMEK and Armin for the next month with the most raving review EVER.

It's sad but true, succes and image can be purchased very easily, just need to have deep pockets. Then spend another 500$ on 300K youtube hits and you're in the rankings there as well.

for a lot of 16 year old kids, it's trying to live the dream, but once you're a little bit more literate in marketing an commerce, you find out that markting succes or genuine appraisals are 2 different things. The first 1 can be bought, the 2nd one comes unsollicited and is a lot more rewarding.
arskinetica
One thing that I'm wondering is though, is it insane to go after this stuff at my age? (29, as of September).

I know there is an unwritten age cap in pop, but is that as prevalent in EDM production as in being a pop performer?

It's not like I'm trying to outdo a 16 year old, who clearly has the advantage of youth, and is far more marketable to a general audience.
Raphie
He, I'm 40, and still years of goodness ahead, so yeah take the plunge!
arskinetica
I've noticed that people in EDM tend last longer doing music-related things too.

I mean, there's a lot you can do.
Raphie
True, regardless of trends the love for music stays and evolves. For me it's really about embracing what feels good to me. If others feel it too? great, if not, it doesn't matter. I just love shaping sound and recording moods
-FSP-
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Originally posted by arskinetica
One thing that I'm wondering is though, is it insane to go after this stuff at my age? (29, as of September).

I know there is an unwritten age cap in pop, but is that as prevalent in EDM production as in being a pop performer?

It's not like I'm trying to outdo a 16 year old, who clearly has the advantage of youth, and is far more marketable to a general audience.


Claude VonStroke got big in his 30s. Just know the risks before going into something though.

You've heard it before, and you'll hear it again here: it's a combination of the dominos being set up, the billiard balls in place, hard work, etc. etc.

All you can really do is start or help promote a night with you in it, and pump out songs from your daw.
arskinetica
I am aware of the risks.

You only live once.

I know Moby was also another who had his career take off in mid-30s.

Same with Jordan Rudess of Dream Theatre, and Jon Brion, who's an electronically oriented film composer.

I know that Jordan creates tutorials and co-creates audio software with developers.

BT recently did a software version of his stutter edit technique with Ozone.

There's the game industry, sound design, audio libraries, finding ways to teach production techniques to people who aren't geeky, etc.

So many things to do which are audio related while pursuing the riskier side of getting people to notice your work on the dance floor.
arskinetica
Besides, I've been using technology to connect with people all over the world about this stuff.

It's awesome, and it makes me want to work harder.

EDM can be a global collaboration. :-)

tehlord
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Originally posted by Raphie
He, I'm 40, and still years of goodness ahead, so yeah take the plunge!


All the best people are tbh.
arskinetica
I guess all I can do is spend my time pursuing what is important to me. Especially since the days of working for the same company for 30 years are over for a lot of people.
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