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REVIEW: SvD and Deko-ze at Beta Waterloo (pg. 4)
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| DJ_Elyot |
| quote: | Originally posted by feelgood
I think i read somewhere that dekoze's set would be available for DL. can anyone confirm? |
It was recorded for sure. Not sure if it will be released. |
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| DJ_Elyot |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
honourable mention also goes to Kurtbradd Dacosta for his opening set as well. |
Yes. Kurtbradd is a solid DJ. His mixing style and attention to detail reminds me a lot of Yohan. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ_Elyot
Yes. Kurtbradd is a solid DJ. His mixing style and attention to detail reminds me a lot of Yohan. |
I'm not so sure about that. I only heard him for about a half hour before Deko-ze came on and definitely heard him up a few times. |
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| kurtbradd |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
I'm not so sure about that. I only heard him for about a half hour before Deko-ze came on and definitely heard him up a few times. |
What would you say I should work on for next time? |
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| DJ_Elyot |
| quote: | Originally posted by kurtbradd
What would you say I should work on for next time? |
More cowbell.
And use a calculator. 126/128 = 0.984375 = 1 - 0.015625
So to match a 128BPM track to a 126BPM track, you need your slider at -1.56%, not -1.6%.
The "0.8 rule" only works when the track you're starting at is at EXACTLY 125 BPM because 0.008 * 125 = 1.
If the track you want to pitch is at 128 BPM, it becomes the "0.78 rule" because 128 * 0.0078 = 0.9984 which is very very close to 1.
If you use 0.8 @ 128 BPM, then you'll have to babysit your mixes more and fix them when they start to go off.
Yes, I observe creepy things when looking over the shoulders of other DJs. |
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| kurtbradd |
haha Elyot you are golden, great observations. I chilled at 126 most of my set, way to early to speed things up.
Edit: I'll bring a calculator and you next time, so my pitch is guarenteed to be correct...who needs ears anyways lol |
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| DJ_Elyot |
| quote: | Originally posted by kurtbradd
haha Elyot you are golden, great observations. I chilled at 126 most of my set, way to early to speed things up.
Edit: I'll bring a calculator and you next time, so my pitch is guarenteed to be correct...who needs ears anyways lol |
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Honestly, let's not kid ourselves. Now that vinyl turntable speeds are no longer an issue and all tracks are digitally produced and 99% of them are churned out to play at an exact integer BPM, almost every serious DJ just writes down their BPMs and uses them to guess where to put the pitch slider. But still, UNLESS you are whipping out a calculator every time, then you really ought to fine-tune your pitch slider even if you know approximately where it needs to be.
A gallop of even a 128th (1/8th of a 16th note) is perceptible to most people, and that's about 15 milliseconds. If you're off by .02% or 128*0.0002 = 0.0256 bpm, then you'll drift by a beat every 1/0.0256 = 39.06 minutes and thus will have a perceptible gallop after about 39/32 = 1.22 minutes. If you're off by 0.04%, your mix will have a perceptible gallop after 30 seconds or so. So "almost correct" is not good enough.
A surefire recipe for almost-perfect-but-slightly-off mixing is to simply apply a rule and forget about it. I get lazy and do this sometimes, especially with the massive horde of beautiful girls that distract me whenever I play a set. But it's a bad habit. Unless you are COMPLETELY sure that the slider is EXACTLY in the right place (within 0.02%), always check that your tracks are matched by hitting play, syncing them up, waiting 30 seconds, and listening to see if they've drifted. |
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| kurtbradd |
Very true, can't forget that slight millisecond delay sometimes induces phase cancelation and you can notice a lack of your kick.
My attempt to reach your level of intelligence :tongue2 |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
I'm not so sure about that. I only heard him for about a half hour before Deko-ze came on and definitely heard him up a few times. |
every dj will up. nobody is perfect.
it boils down to how quickly the dj can recover from the mistake. |
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| Skipper |
Funny, sometime over the weekend someone on my facebook posted "I am in Vegas, it's 4am and I'm at a table with Olivia Wilde and Sander Van Doorn - can someone under 30 tell me who Sander Van Doorn is because apparently I'm supposed to know!"
I wonder if it actually was him |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
every dj will up. nobody is perfect.
it boils down to how quickly the dj can recover from the mistake. |
shaya is perfect |
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| DJ_Elyot |
| quote: | Originally posted by kurtbradd
Very true, can't forget that slight millisecond delay sometimes induces phase cancelation and you can notice a lack of your kick.
My attempt to reach your level of intelligence :tongue2 |
I don't think this is very relevant unless both of the following are true:
(a) You're not EQing out the bass and playing 2 kicks together.
(b) The kicks themselves are synced so that they interfere constructively when played simultaneously, (for example, if the exact same kick is used in two different tracks).
(b) is not necessarily going to be true. Most kicks don't even really emit a constant frequency but vibrate at a variety of modes that change in amplitude over time. Most electronic kicks decrease in pitch over time. Etc. Play two sets of kicks at the same time, and you have no guarantee that there won't be cancellation even when they're exactly synced.
What you probably notice is that tiny delays will (quite drastically) CHANGE the amount of phase cancellation when two kicks are playing simultaneously. Yes, this happens. My point is simply that there's no guarantee that the kicks will sound loud together even if the tracks are exactly beatmatched. They could sound LOUDER when the tracks are NOT beatmatched.
Moral of the story: It's always better to avoid blending two or more sets of lows at full volume. Use high pass filters with low Q if you want to blend midlows/basslines of one track with the kick from another, and try to always avoid blending sub-bass. |
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