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The CRTC is not dead: Wind Mobile ownership back in question
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| Orko |
This country is a joke:
| quote: | Court quashes Tory cabinet’s Globalive decision
A judge has struck down the Harper cabinet’s 2009 decision to overrule the CRTC and let a cell carrier with Egyptian ties operate in Canada.
“That decision was based on errors of law and must be quashed,” Mr. Justice Roger Hughes of Federal Court wrote on Friday.
He put in place a 45-day stay of judgment in order to avoid chaos and give the carrier, Globalive, a chance to go back to the federal telecom regulator. This means Globalive can keep operating for now.
The appeal to Federal Court was brought by Public Mobile, a wireless competitor. It had asked for the judicial review, arguing the Harper cabinet exceeded its authority when it allowed Globalive and its Wind Mobile brand to operate despite the fact it wasn't sufficiently Canadian-owned or controlled for the Canadian Radio-television Telecommunications Commission.
The decision comes one day after the Conservatives signalled they would overturn another CRTC decision, on Internet billing. It leaves Wind Mobile hanging.
"I've got another fight on my hands," said Globalive chairman Anthony Lacavera, which now runs Wind Mobile. "We're disappointed. We're assessing our options and we will fight it vigorously."
Mr. Lacavera stressed that this would not result in Globalive's Wind Mobile being shut down, simply that it would require another round of wrangling with the regulator over how much foreign influence is acceptable in a Canadian telecommunications company. He added that it throws more uncertainty at an already opaque issue.
A financial analyst from RBC Dominion Securities said in a note to clients on Friday afternoon that it was unclear what Wind's options were, and that this was "potentially quite positive" for Canada's largest wireless companies: Rogers, Bell and Telus.
Alek Krstajic, Public Mobile's CEO, has said before he never wanted to close Wind Mobile down. Mr. Krstajic said he simply wanted clarity on the country's foreign ownership laws, and added that it was unfair that Globalive's ownership structure was approved with a huge amount of easy-to-get foreign capital whereas other new wireless companies had to find local capital in order to comply with ownership rules.
The court case raises profound questions in Ottawa: How much power do Stephen Harper and his cabinet really have – and are there any limits to it?
Over the past five years, Mr. Harper's government has acquired a reputation for overriding the opinions of federal watchdogs and experts – from Statistics Canada on the need for a long-form census to the Parliamentary Budget Officer on whether Ottawa has a structural deficit.
In many cases, the federal cabinet has broad discretion to act, as legal rulings have recognized, on “matters of public convenience and general policy.”
But in the case of telecom, its mandate and manoeuvrability are governed by the Telecommunications Act.
Industry Minister Tony Clement said the government was reviewing the decision and considering options.
Ottawa will have to appeal the decision or accept what is an effective check on cabinet powers when it comes to telecom policy.
The last time cabinet power on telecom was examined by the courts, the decision effectively shaped the legal view of cabinet authority for a generation. In 1980, a Supreme Court ruling on the Inuit Tapirisat's challenge of a cabinet decision on Bell Canada's rate structure effectively gave cabinet more blanket authority.
In January, Hudson Janisch, a University of Victoria expert in regulatory law who helped revise the Telecommunications Act in 1993, called this case is “a long overdue challenge” to the Inuit Tapirisat ruling and the expansive interpretation the government's lawyers have adopted. “I would argue Inuit has been overtaken by time. We don't like the idea now of these very broad unchecked powers.”
Prof. Janisch said over the last three decades administrative law has grown more sophisticated, and a good argument can be made for “much more checks and balances ... on the exercise of power.”
The Telecommunications Act gives cabinet the power to change or rescind CRTC decisions, but Public Mobile argued this “cannot be used arbitrarily or in manner that is inconsistent with the express terms of the legislation from which [cabinet's] power derives, or with the legislation's purpose and intent.”
Lawyers for Ottawa had argued cabinet's power under the legislation is largely unbounded. “The Supreme Court has affirmed that the power exercised by [cabinet] under section 12 ... is virtually unbounded,” the Attorney-General's office said in a submission to the Federal Court. |
I don't know who's bank roll that judge is on, but this has got to stop. We take one step forward, two steps back. Let the money into the country, nobody else has the pockets to compete properly. |
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| jester |
| Time to audit that judge and review all his court cases |
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| VERTiG0 |
| Who can I write a strongly-worded letter to. This is ed. This country is ed. |
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| GGM |
Ya that sucks. I LOVE Wind coming into our market + all those smaller budget guys like public and mobilicity. The big guys for the first time offered competitive plans and budget/unlimited packages right after this happened. It's funny you have Telus/Bell/Rogers etc price fixing for years with each other basically offering the same thing. All it takes is one guy like Wind saying hey we don't have to absolutely rape our customers, we can just charge them cost + a bit of profit and be happy. Then they all start ting themselves..
For $50 I got unlimited local and Canadian long distance with a bunch of other stuff tossed in from Fido a couple months ago. Obviously not a publicized plan but it's there if you want to do some talking FYI... |
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| MarkT |
whether or not you think more competition is desirable and/or foreign ownership regulations ought to be relaxed is not the point here. I think we, as consumers, would all like to see more competition because it means better pricing and service for us. duh.
the argument by Public Mobile exec is that the gov't is being inconsistent. the decision of the court is that *limitless* discretion to overturn the decision of the CRTC does not rest with cabinet and that the lower court's decision is flawed. those things have nothing to do with more competition being good or bad.
so I fail to see why anyone is hating on this judge, unless you think that you know the law better than he does. I also fail to see why this country is "ed" or "a joke". if you think our laws are dated, that's perfectly valid position to take...so do something about it!
on topic, I personally don't think cabinet should not have *limitless* power to override regulators, so I hope that this decision does hold up if an appeal is launched. let the gov't go back to Parliament and seek to either amend/enact legislation to clearly give it the power the court says it doesn't have or to enact/amend legislation relaxing foreign ownership/control laws.
if the goal is (as Clement stated) to increase competition, then perhaps relaxing the laws is worth exploring. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with opening up the market, but if that's the desired end, then it's Parliament's role to address the issue...not cabinet via overruling regulators. |
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| E2EK1EL |
| Even though I don;t like AWS, I sure love Wind coming to Canada and I wish them all the best. |
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| samhouse |
| crap...they are one of my top clients |
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| Shaya007 |
I pay $42.50 including the taxes with mobilicity right now and loving it;
unlimited 24/7 calls to anywhere in NA
Global Txt
Unlimited data
call, name display/ voice mail
Free internet ( not super fast but does everything i need it to do!)
the big 3 |
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| UXC |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shaya007
I pay $42.50 including the taxes with mobilicity right now and loving it;
unlimited 24/7 calls to anywhere in NA
Global Txt
Unlimited data
call, name display/ voice mail
Free internet ( not super fast but does everything i need it to do!)
the big 3 |
Is this like full internet (like normal mobile internet)? not the kind that is restricted to gmail/hotmail youtube and facebook or whatever lol |
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| Shaya007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by UXC
Is this like full internet (like normal mobile internet)? not the kind that is restricted to gmail/hotmail youtube and facebook or whatever lol |
nothing is restricted..whoever says they're is full of |
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| UXC |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shaya007
nothing is restricted..whoever says they're is full of |
No its just the "big dogs" have in the past promoted unlimated internet browsing that in fact was just ultimated in the sense of bandwith but limited in the sense of what you can do lol
I seriously wanna check out these Mobilicity Guys... needs me a new phone soon.
Edit:
Ok just checked em out: wow ive never seen a company actually state the price of the phones (predominantly mind you) is almost like your in Europe or the middle east where cellphones and their plans aren't the the most complicated part of your day.
And the whole multi month thing if you actually want some savings due to your loyal spending is a great addition. |
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| Shaya007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by UXC
No its just the "big dogs" have in the past promoted unlimated internet browsing that in fact was just ultimated in the sense of bandwith but limited in the sense of what you can do lol
I seriously wanna check out these Mobilicity Guys... needs me a new phone soon.
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Ok just checked em out: wow ive never seen a company actually state the price of the phones (predominantly mind you) is almost like your in Europe or the middle east where cellphones and their plans aren't the the most complicated part of your day.
And the whole multi month thing if you actually want some savings due to your loyal spending is a great addition. |
Zero hassle on all fronts...an upfront company for once in my life..I dare to say even better than Wind mobile |
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