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| Ponemax |
Can someone please tell me where I can find the best free trance effects and what is the best one to buy?
Can anyone give me some tips on getting a wide variety of effects that you may hear in a track on di.fm/trance or ah.fm? I want to make quality trance music.
Thanks for the help.
Lester |
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| -FSP- |
| I suggest viewing the tutorial master list. Also, pitch modulation, resonance modulation, and white noise combined with filter modulation might be what you're looking for. just toy around with the LFOs directed towards anything, really. You are most likely lost after reading what I said, so that's why I think the tutorial master list is required reading. |
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| Ponemax |
FSP -- White noise sounds right. You know how trance has those intros and transitions where there is more of a noise (that is probably going through filtering) than a pitched sound. I am not lost at all. I've tried using additive/subtractive synthesis. The problem is that I don't know where to start in making trance sounds, much less trance effects. This is why I figured finding samples would be better.
How would LFOs work? I thought they just slightly modified a sound you were already using.
If you have any tips on tutorials, articles, or books. Please let me know what you have. Also please reply to the first paragraph. Thank you for your help. |
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| johncannons1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ponemax
Can someone please tell me where I can find the best free trance effects and what is the best one to buy?
Can anyone give me some tips on getting a wide variety of effects that you may hear in a track on di.fm/trance or ah.fm? I want to make quality trance music.
Thanks for the help.
Lester |
vengeance sample packs google it :) |
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| EddieZilker |
Personally, I think you're starting in the wrong place. You have a very elementary understanding of what an LFO does and you're rarely going to find a sample of some effect you've heard in a noteworthy track. The tutorial master list and forum FAQ is the easiest way to get started.
Low Frequency Oscillators can be used to affect a number of variables, from the amplitude and pan of the oscillators to the frequency position and resonance on a filter. White noise from one or more oscillators can be routed through a narrow-band notch filter, modulated with a slow attack ADSR envelope, to achieve a "shooting star" effect - it sounds more like a clean whistle than white-noise and it's kind of old-school.
But, honestly, white noise sweeps are kind of old-hat, as well, and with the amount of time you'll spend learning how to adequately pull off a cliche', the scene will have moved onto some new hackney sound, like gated amplitude, saw-tooth, high-pass filter sweep transition.
Well, maybe not like that, but I was trying to come up with something that sounds worse than the trite white-noise sweep which has replaced the snare-attack build. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ponemax
FSP -- White noise sounds right. You know how trance has those intros and transitions where there is more of a noise (that is probably going through filtering) than a pitched sound. I am not lost at all. I've tried using additive/subtractive synthesis. The problem is that I don't know where to start in making trance sounds, much less trance effects. This is why I figured finding samples would be better.
How would LFOs work? I thought they just slightly modified a sound you were already using.
If you have any tips on tutorials, articles, or books. Please let me know what you have. Also please reply to the first paragraph. Thank you for your help. |
Because if you cant' work out how to do something yourself then pay some hack to do it for you right?;) |
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| Ponemax |
| Kit -- I think I asked for more general help and not just samples. Thanks for the help eagle. That is exactly the stuff I wanted to hear about. |
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| CalebGolston |
The most important effects you need to master are EQ, Compression, Reverb, Filter and Delay. Mastering a basic plugin of any of these is more important than having a fancy one that you don't know how to use.
Compression is very important in electronic music today especially but hard to master (at least for me). I am 22 and only knew anything of electronic music in 2006 but I listened to a lot of old Digweed, Sasha, Oakenfold sets from 98', 2000, ect right off the bat. I think compression is used far more now than it was in the music back then.
That being said, it is easier said than done. There are also issues with the instruments you choose (which will kill a song if not right), Mono and Stereo placement, the placement of instruments within a song (everything should be in it's right place) and nothing should be empty. |
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| shane_w1 |
How about posting an example or are you just generally wanting to know everything about Producing Trance Music?
To distance yourself away from the rookies, learn about EQ and the Frequency levels, many people use a Trance Bassline going into an Arppegiate style, like Sean Tyas and Daniel Kandi and wonder why their sounds are flat.
Use a Stereo Widener on 1 bassline and use another bassline layered underneath a bit more central, use EQ to bring out the Low-end frequencies and get creative with using Delay and Filtering though be careful as you want alot of dryness to the Filtering otherwise it's going to sound like a washing machine.
Be careful on using Reverb as it can create good effects but if applied too much, can dampen the whole mix.
Really learn about layering though, it's a key to sounding Thicker and more professionally sounding and learn about arrangement.
Also, don't be afraid to basic with Drums & Percussion in Trance Music, the term 'Swing' is only really associated with House Music so if anyone mentions that then id stay well away from that technique when composing Trance Music....just study the Songs you like and don't focus on the overall track, disect the Track and analyze each sound, most people think Van Buuren etc. only use 1 lead, 1 bassline etc. but in fact they may have up to 50 Channels using different sounds all layering and inter-twining so it can be as complex or as basic as the World needs. |
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| Andy28 |
| quote: | Originally posted by shane_w1
Also, don't be afraid to basic with Drums & Percussion in Trance Music, the term 'Swing' is only really associated with House Music so if anyone mentions that then id stay well away from that technique when composing Trance Music.... |
Sorry, I really don't agree with this, loads of producers do this and not just on the percussion, but with alot of elements including the bassline and leads (really gives it movement).
Agree with the rest of your advice though stereo widener on 1 bassline could also be achieved by using a deley which would then keep the main part pretty center, but there's no rules for this really so just experiment and listen to what sounds good for you. |
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