Originally posted by Beatflux
Interesting point. Never heard of Burial before, what are some of his good tracks?
:eyes: You've never heard of burial?? Have you been living under a rock for three years!? He's probably one of the biggest producers out there at the moment afaik... Anyway, here's his famous one.
This is also really very nice
Its influenced everyone from Sasha to Sei a from what I've seen, he's got really high quality productions and well worth checking out.
There's your crash course in burial basically... Very nice tunes.
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Originally posted by cryophonik
Well, you could notate it either way, but it would just be a make-work exercise to do it 2/4 and, in practice, all you'd be doing is halving the length of each measure and doubling the length (i.e., # of measures) of the song. The main point, however, is the syncopation on the lead synth that accents every third and highest note, which gives the impression that it has changed to a triplet-based time signature.
Obviously any track on 4/4 can be notated as 2/4, it just felt like maybe it was repeating every 2 crotchets to me, so maybe was 2/4. I mean, its all based on where the repetition is right? I could be very wrong here, not at all sure of my ground.
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Originally posted by Mad for Brad
The emphasis in pop is on the backbeat ie 2 and 4. I have rarely heard anything where the main beat was 1.
I think in dubstep the snares are allegedly on the 1 and 3, so maybe thats a reversal of that trend, since generally the snares indicate the accent in dance music afaik... But I've never been sure about that, it was just told to me by a dubstep DJ in a club one time, so who knows really. On top of which, he might have been notating as though it was 70-80 bpm instead of 140-160.
Mad for Brad
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Originally posted by J.L.
3/4
Still in4/4 with standard 8 bar phrase
J.L.
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Originally posted by Mad for Brad
Still in4/4 with standard 8 bar phrase
I thought we were talking about time signatures?
Anyways, I found it interesting b/c instead of
....s.......s...
K.h.K.h.K.h.K.h.
it was
KssKssKssKss
where
K=Kick
h=hat
s=snare
Mad for Brad
We are but many things dictate the time signature. This track is pretty much the same groove as the dark side.
ken_lee
i just remembered, one of my all time trance tracks where in 3/4 or 12/8 or whatever. love it!!!!! memories omg its all coming back. im gonna OD now.
Mad for Brad
I don't get why time signatures are so hard to understand. I mean you probably have to deal with fourier transforms all day, how the do you mess up like grade 3 math.
that track is not in 3/4
ken_lee
just like fourier follows, i just dont care about what it is.
i know how to count and i know how to make it, the terms means nothing to me. i never had it in my mouth anyway, im more a walk the walk. the reason ive always thought it was 3/4 is because i thought you counted 16th first and the beats, for one bar. it has 3 16ths on each beat, and 4 beats in the loop. but as ive just learned its more correct to say 12/8; which i totally cant understand. 12 what during 8 waht?
Mad for Brad
you are a smart cookie, you shouldn't be making these mistakes.
Kysora
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Originally posted by ken_lee
it has 3 16ths on each beat, and 4 beats in the loop. but as ive just learned its more correct to say 12/8; which i totally cant understand. 12 what during 8 waht?
The top number in a time signature is the number of subdivisions per measure, not per beat. Bottom number is what you're subdividing by.
Your song has twelve 8th notes per measure. Hence, 12/8.
ken_lee
it makes sence caus the redrum stops after 12 16ths in 3/4 lol (last four "disabled". hard to explain without showing it.
Mad for Brad
the difference being in 3/4 , the 16th notes are in groups of 4 where as in 12/8, the 8ths are in groups of 3. So not at all the same despite having 12 instances of each value.
A better example would be 3/4 compared to 6/8
Each have 6 8th notes but they are have a very different feel.
