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what bridged the gap between the old school and new school?
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| Mattinsanity |
| peeps talk about old school insert genre , which means a new school followed. how did the new school form? |
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| Meat187 |
| You need to stop making threads. |
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| pozz |
| never been able to come up with a good answer. it seems like an accident, but it's not cuz the new school has a fatter low end in every genre I can think of. |
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| Rodri Santos |
| Trance is 2005. In this year all the producers decided to throw the style to the bin and nobody has claimed for it yet |
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| Sykonee |
| Old school is when the music was better. Obviously, it's all relative. |
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| montana |
it's the cycles and evolution of a genre.
it follows this format (sort of):
prototype, might be something from another genre that evolved into this new type of music, or something even way older.
early phase, right before the genre has a clear defintion of genre and/or peak, this is the phase where all the people that was in it from the beginning is going to say was the best phase
definition & anthem, genre has been defined to a couple of tunes, really big tunes, eventually they are going to be a template for a slew of people wanting to get in on this
oversaturation and branching out, the honeymoon is over, everyone has gotten in on it and it might have gotten a few chart hits via a commercial bastardization and now this type of sound is sort of stale. time to do something else with this sound, time to evolve it. either it gets stripped down or it gains influence from some other genre.
death and rebirth now the sound is going to be so raped that it's going to be declared dead a couple of times. right before that, the sound has already cross mixed with something else, and now it's full circle. and this new sound is going to have it's cycle. however, this new sounds may just be called the same name as the old sound.
then we have this new generation of the sound. and you have first wave and the second wave. you can call the waves old and new but it requires one more cycle for it to be quite proper to called it old and new school.
this has happend to jazz, rock and roll, techno, trance, house, drum & bass, ambient, soul, disco, hiphop, electro, whatever. you name it. |
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| stealthman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
You need to stop making threads. |
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| stevö |
| quote: | Originally posted by montana
it's the cycles and evolution of a genre.
it follows this format (sort of):
prototype, might be something from another genre that evolved into this new type of music, or something even way older.
early phase, right before the genre has a clear defintion
definition of genre and/or peak, this is the phase where all the people that was in it from the beginning is going to say was the best phase
definition & anthem, genre has been defined to a couple of tunes, really big tunes, eventually they are going to be a template for a slew of people wanting to get in on this
oversaturation and branching , the honeymoon is over, and everyone has gotten in on it and it might have gotten a few chart hits via a commercial bastardization and now this type of sound is sort of stale. time to do something else with this sound, time to evolve it. either it gets stripped down or it gains influence from some other genre.
death and rebirthnow the sound is going to be so raped that it's going to be declared dead a couple of times. and right before that, the sound has already cross mixed with something else, and now it's full circle. and this new sound is going to have it's cycle. however, this new sounds may just be called the same name as the old sound.
then we have this new generation of the sound. and you have first wave and the second wave. you can call the waves old and new but it requires one more cycle for it to be quite proper to called it old and new school.
this has happend to jazz, rock and roll, techno, trance, house, drum & bass, ambient, soul, disco, hiphop, electro, whatever. you name it. |
sounds very accurate. i wonder how the internet has affected this. |
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| Mattinsanity |
| quote: | Originally posted by montana
it's the cycles and evolution of a genre.
it follows this format (sort of):
prototype, might be something from another genre that evolved into this new type of music, or something even way older.
early phase, right before the genre has a clear defintion of genre and/or peak, this is the phase where all the people that was in it from the beginning is going to say was the best phase
definition & anthem, genre has been defined to a couple of tunes, really big tunes, eventually they are going to be a template for a slew of people wanting to get in on this
oversaturation and branching out, the honeymoon is over, everyone has gotten in on it and it might have gotten a few chart hits via a commercial bastardization and now this type of sound is sort of stale. time to do something else with this sound, time to evolve it. either it gets stripped down or it gains influence from some other genre.
death and rebirth now the sound is going to be so raped that it's going to be declared dead a couple of times. right before that, the sound has already cross mixed with something else, and now it's full circle. and this new sound is going to have it's cycle. however, this new sounds may just be called the same name as the old sound.
then we have this new generation of the sound. and you have first wave and the second wave. you can call the waves old and new but it requires one more cycle for it to be quite proper to called it old and new school.
this has happend to jazz, rock and roll, techno, trance, house, drum & bass, ambient, soul, disco, hiphop, electro, whatever. you name it. |
interesting. impeccable knowledge.
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Trance is 2005. In this year all the producers decided to throw the style to the bin and nobody has claimed for it yet |
fascinating. 2005? I can't front and disagree. |
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| Mattinsanity |
| quote: | Originally posted by stealthman
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just for your info, I've made 31 threads since sept 19 lol |
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| rawbound |
| quote: | Originally posted by montana
it's the cycles and evolution of a genre.
it follows this format (sort of):
prototype, might be something from another genre that evolved into this new type of music, or something even way older.
early phase, right before the genre has a clear defintion of genre and/or peak, this is the phase where all the people that was in it from the beginning is going to say was the best phase
definition & anthem, genre has been defined to a couple of tunes, really big tunes, eventually they are going to be a template for a slew of people wanting to get in on this
oversaturation and branching out, the honeymoon is over, everyone has gotten in on it and it might have gotten a few chart hits via a commercial bastardization and now this type of sound is sort of stale. time to do something else with this sound, time to evolve it. either it gets stripped down or it gains influence from some other genre.
death and rebirth now the sound is going to be so raped that it's going to be declared dead a couple of times. right before that, the sound has already cross mixed with something else, and now it's full circle. and this new sound is going to have it's cycle. however, this new sounds may just be called the same name as the old sound.
then we have this new generation of the sound. and you have first wave and the second wave. you can call the waves old and new but it requires one more cycle for it to be quite proper to called it old and new school.
this has happend to jazz, rock and roll, techno, trance, house, drum & bass, ambient, soul, disco, hiphop, electro, whatever. you name it. |
So you could see trance as still beeing in its first circle (the dying/beeing dead stage), lasting 20 years something? Or are you thinking more small scale? It's damn hard to give a good definition of these things when I think about it. |
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| montana |
| first wave of trance died in 96/97 something, giving birth to the epic '99 trance and then when that died, it gave birth to the '05 trance and and now it whatever the it is. the common link is that zyon's no fate, ferry's out of the blue, fictivision's ringworld and john o'callaghan's big sky is called 'trance' when only one actually trance per original definition. |
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