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A question about discogs..
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| stealthman |
1. Do the artists who've spent their money to get their releases pressed on vinyl receive any profit (or percentage of sale) via the third party sellers who sell their 2nd hand copies down to customers on Discogs? Or does all shipping and record cost stay with the seller?
Just askin'. |
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| JakeC |
| All profit goes to the seller. |
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| JEO |
^ Yes.
According to some people, second hand like this is / should be illegal.
Just out of curiosity, why are you asking? |
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| shawn5 |
| Nice answer to the question,... |
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| PivotTechno |
| quote: | Originally posted by JEO
According to some people, second hand like this is / should be illegal.
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And what astounding reason did "some people" come up with for this rationalization? |
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| JEO |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Well, illegal is probably the wrong word, although a lot of CDs have the words "Not for resale" on them, just like books do. Immoral or unfair are probably better terms, depending on your viewpoint.
The point is that second hand music shopping doesn't give any money to the artists at all. If you went on eBay and bought Northern Exposure for $50, you are no "better" than someone who pirates it for free. |
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| Guest |
| quote: | Originally posted by JEO
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One of the most idiotic quotes I've ever seen on this board, thanks for pulling that up. As if an artist should be paid everytime one of their releases changes owners. Good god.:conf: |
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| JEO |
The quote is somewhat out of context, I'm sorry. The basis is that everyone rips the records they buy into their hard-drive, as people used to record their vinyls to tapes.. 1 guy bought it, 10 people "own" it. The artist / company only got paid for one. That's the whole deal.
It's not any thought of mine, as I said some people. |
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| DJ Dingel |
| The possibility of resale raises consumers' willingness to pay for the product initially, so purchasing music secondhand and pirating it are not equivalent in terms of artists' outcomes. |
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| basilisk |
There is a doctrine of first sale well-established in US law that permits resale of media purchased by the consumer... this, after all, facilitates the entire second-hand marketplace, and this is certainly legal.
Still, there is a grey area when you look at instances where the original artist was ripped off by the label, the release was not properly distributed, and clowns on Discogs are selling the vinyl or CD for literally hundreds of dollars. It's shady and anti-cultural, limiting access to classics and rarities for reasons of profit and exclusivity, but there isn't a whole lot you can do about it.*
*Unless, of course, you convince the original artist to re-release their classics under the Creative Commons for free distribution online, which I have been able to do a few times (OOOD, Elysium, etc.). |
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