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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
This, in my opinion is THE secret to being succesful that people seem completely unwilling to accept.
I think that most people are unable to make a style of their own tbh. |
You can have your own style and still suck cock.
Most producers stick within a narrow pallet of sounds and techniques that usually adhere to one or two genres. Crossing EDM genres doesn't really count itself as "innovative" because a lot of it is the same. |
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| Richard Butler |
I agree, I find trying to wring my own style out the mangle very difficult.
I admire the trance guys here as that genre imo is very difficult to put a personal stamp upon. Most especially with things like rolling bass. |
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| TranceLover007 |
Hmmm, let's start with this: "This is my and only my opinion" so you don't have to agree with me at all.
I think that people make to much noise about making your own style, creating something unique or being different --> I don't think this is only all about that. For me this melodic and atmospheric connection to/with listener is the most important factor in my music and of course if you have something unique and different to offer, will/would speed up your reputation establishing process. Don't focus too much on something that you don't feel or don't understand yet, it may come or not, but what you can definitely do is work with what you have in your heart, your skills, listen, learn and keep improving, so this is one part of the truth, but the second one is all about connections, networking and a bit of luck, so the best advice would be to get around with people, make as many connections as possible, help different people (you never know, one day they may help you) and get your self know as good, solid and persistent producer and this is what make the biggest difference ---> my $0.02
Cheers from Seattle,
Darek |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
I don't know, it just seems like too many people are overly concerned with what other people think instead of just focusing on making music they (honestly) like. There are a few members of this forum who seem to fall into that category almost to the point of paralysis. It's like they can't get anything done because they are too worried about if its "good" or "acceptable" or whatever.
I think you have to ask yourself what kind of producer are you? Are you doing this because you truly like to make music, or are you doing this because you are seeking praise, validation and/or accolades from others?
For me personally, I just make music that I like and would want to play out. No more, no less. Maybe it sounds like some other producers, maybe it doesn't. Maybe some people label it unique, or maybe they wouldn't.
I bet that if you take any single producer that you think of as "unique" and ask them if they think of their music in that way, they would all tell you that they just make what they like and leave it to others to apply those labels. |
Right on Eric!!! :happy2: |
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| DigiNut |
Given that you have already stated that you are listening to these cookie-cutter tracks (many if not most of them probably released on some OK label), it seems self-evident that you don't need a unique sound to achieve any commercial success.
There are probably a lot more producers making money from following the current trend than there are making money from doing anything truly original.
Perhaps if you want to make it huge, to literally be able to live comfortably off the money you make from your productions, then you need something unique, but the actual definition of "successful" is considerably looser than that.
Besides, anybody can take a particular sound and rationalize after the fact why it's unique. In reality artistic success is more of a combination of random chance and social effects than anything else, and the BS explanations people come up with after the fact are just the age-old introspection illusion. There really isn't any formula for what makes a hit track or style, no matter how much some people want to believe there is. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| I don't. Listen to generic music. Not sure where you got that information. If people can't tell whether you made the track in less than a minute, you need to mature as a producer and find your style |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Given that you have already stated that you are listening to these cookie-cutter tracks (many if not most of them probably released on some OK label), it seems self-evident that you don't need a unique sound to achieve any commercial success.
There are probably a lot more producers making money from following the current trend than there are making money from doing anything truly original.
Perhaps if you want to make it huge, to literally be able to live comfortably off the money you make from your productions, then you need something unique, but the actual definition of "successful" is considerably looser than that.
Besides, anybody can take a particular sound and rationalize after the fact why it's unique. In reality artistic success is more of a combination of random chance and social effects than anything else, and the BS explanations people come up with after the fact are just the age-old introspection illusion. There really isn't any formula for what makes a hit track or style, no matter how much some people want to believe there is. |
Making something generic and selling a couple of hundred, or even a few thousand copies isn't being succesful in any way as far as i'm concerned.
From my own perspective I was talking about making it huge. |
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| 112268 |
| SHM proves you wrong. they make their music in less than 1 minute, and all the sounds are from Vengeance. Even the melodies are from Sound Banks. And they sound , yet success. This is why I hate humans. Quality means anymore, nor do originality. Creativity and being original today means youre some kinda freak, a monster no one can relate to. But if you make something everyone knows from before they feel like they know you too. Its a monkey thing. Use Lady Gaga as an example. Shes probably the biggest popartist at the moment, yet not a single thing in there is original. Her voice reminds of Christina Aguilera, the melodies and beats are just typical Timbaland, her stage act is Madonna, and some of the lyics are ABBA. wtf how original. |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by 112268
SHM proves you wrong. they make their music in less than 1 minute, and all the sounds are from Vengeance. Even the melodies are from Sound Banks. And they sound , yet success. This is why I hate humans. |
They were already established and heavily marketed though. You could argue that it was foundations they laid a few years back that lets them point and laugh at the morons lapping their up now. |
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| 112268 |
| success today is about recycling old material. just get those 12" vinyl from your fathers attic and start sampling. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| i'm talking about good music, not successful. The kind of producer that can sleep at night knowing they aren't a complete piece of . |
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| 112268 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
They were already established and heavily marketed though. You could argue that it was foundations they laid a few years back that lets them point and laugh at the morons lapping their up now. |
they where well knows as individuals, but not that much as a group. some of them even had a few cool songs before capitalism stole their souls. poor bastards. |
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