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New Mixing Technique - Harmonic Mixing
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Does anyone actually know how to do this? If you have never heard of this its basically taking the key note of a song and using that scale to mix in the next song. The problem is that every 3% pitch changes the keynote by a half step. Can anyone give me a little help understanding this more?
Thanks!
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| tu_face |
umm i think u need a maths degree for it heheh.. its not so bad if ur using songs with keys that are in harmony anyway.. or am i talkin here..
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There is more information about this technique at http://www.djprince.com, it has some good turtorials to get yall started. The problem that I have is actually finding the keys of the song and then figureing out wether its major or minor. Agh! So far the only dj's that i think mix like this consistently are Tiesto and Oakenfold.
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| Lexicon |
Labeling records with keys & bpm can be taxing....
With long-term experience, I believe harmonic-mixing can be acquired by your own ears. It is individual's way of doing anyways. |
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| Joel Fielder |
A rough guide to keys:
Happy = major. (Think Steps and S Club 7 happy clappy bull.)
Sad = minor. eg Dreaming - BT.
The thing is, the majority of dance music is halfway in between.
You'll be lucky to find tracks which beatmatch and keymatch perfectly, but you don't necessarily have to get the right key. If you get a relative key it should sound OK.
eg Track one is in C Major/Minor. It's closest keys are the 3rd Major, 4th and 5th Major/Minor and the 6th Minor so you could have F or G Maj/Min or A Min.
Basically, just listen and see what sounds right. Unless you've got perfect pitch you won't be able to do it without practice. |
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| lexiconavenue |
dont mean to come off as a dick, but just mix what sounds good...dont worry about harmonic mixing. if it clashes, find a new record.
Lexi |
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| patticus |
i disagree lexicon avenue, harmonic mixing can be excellent.. look at some of oakie's classic essential mix work, like the goa mix silver. its mindboggling... joel nailed it on the head with that "happy = major, sad = minor"
however, its not ALWAYS the case. for example, system f - out of the blue is in the key of G minor.. but then it changes for the (breakdown? i still dont know that word)... interlude or whatever, into G major.
you get songs with switches in keys and such
if there's any specific stuff you're not sure about, just post em up here, i'll try to help
(being one of those blessed/cursed with perfect pitch, hehe)
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| Peter Campbell |
| If your talking about the root key its the original pitch that a sample was played at . Dose that help |
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| lexiconavenue |
| quote: | Originally posted by patticus
i disagree lexicon avenue, harmonic mixing can be excellent.. look at some of oakie's classic essential mix work, like the goa mix silver. its mindboggling... joel nailed it on the head with that "happy = major, sad = minor"
however, its not ALWAYS the case. for example, system f - out of the blue is in the key of G minor.. but then it changes for the (breakdown? i still dont know that word)... interlude or whatever, into G major.
you get songs with switches in keys and such
if there's any specific stuff you're not sure about, just post em up here, i'll try to help
(being one of those blessed/cursed with perfect pitch, hehe)
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...like i said, just mix what sounds good (im not arguing that harmonic mixing is , i think its beautiful when the right records are matched). if you have two keys that dont match, find a new record. perfect pitch huh? hmmm...well, congrats.
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| Lexicon |
^^^^^^^^^
Exactly...Lexi...
What's your name again? |
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| patticus |
well not djs are blessed w/ musical ear, might not know if the keys dont match... as one guy said to me, "being a dj has nothing to do w/ music. you just have to have a feel for the beat"
yeah maybe if you're spinning hard house
but if you want a deeper, more polished set... well like i said before |
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