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Pure newbie Question.. (pg. 3)
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| Ammar.Hasan |
| Did I just fail :(, oh wait i misread that completely. Sorry was playing Call of duty :P. Yes i shall google it :P |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| yes, and get used to it because if you can't deal with failure learning is going to suck for you:p |
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| Ammar.Hasan |
| DOH! :( tis okay!! I shall make no mistake from now :P |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
you don't need to learn anything to enjoy the music. that being said this thread is not on how to learn how to enjoy music:p
it is already implied no? |
Really? You don't appreciate music more after learning a bit about DJing? You're missing out.
And Ammar, whatever you do, when you learn to mix, please don't spam forums with inanely titled mixes. |
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| Ammar.Hasan |
| Don't worry i'll give you guys a year, and then i'll spam the forums with uber awesome mixes ;) |
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| princesultan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ravemontreal
start slow |
i think the above point is the best advice in the whole thread. i see a lot of newbies just starting yet already messing with 4 decks, looping and effects yet they still haven't mastered the basics. this is because technology can allow you to do this much easier now more than ever.
the important thing is to start slow and get the basics down pat no matter what setup you're using. the more basic the setup when starting out, the better, imo. |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
Really? You don't appreciate music more after learning a bit about DJing? You're missing out.
And Ammar, whatever you do, when you learn to mix, please don't spam forums with inanely titled mixes. |
i do appreciate it more, but sometimes the frustration at the beginning made me ing hate it:p |
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| Fran666 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ravemontreal
because playing with CDJs and Vinyl is?
Hi Ammar,
don't listen to this. It's the perfect kind of bull that non-DJs are spreading around.
Playing vinyl didn't develop my ear, experience did. Recording myslef, playing in front of a crowd, my taste in music, as well as my personnality.
Just like people playing vinyl didn't have to learn to mix with a fckn phonograph or tape deck to understand music and it's effects. Just like people that started with CDJs didn't have to learn vinyl.
Technology is evolving very fast and it will only be exponential. And when beatmatching and vinyls will be a thing from the past, DJs will not be better or worse.
If you are a douche, you will play like a douche. Either you get it, or you don't. Gear will not change that.
If DJs today lack understanding of DJing, it's because they became DJs before being good. Not because they didn't learned to beatmatch. And that is the path that most of us will take before being actually good. Cause experience you acquire live is priceless.
It doesn't matter the why and the hows. You start however you want by getting YOURSELF informed. Know your inside out. READ infos on the web about your gear. Make your OWN decision about how YOU want to do it. STOP listening to 95% of people that are not DJs. If most people say don't do that, then you be the devil's advocat and see why not.
After that, you will be convince that YOU are right.
That's how you get good.
After doing all kind of different ways to DJ, today I am 100% software and controller. But that was my personal choice, after testing and see the pros and cons of all options. By then, I didn't give a fck about what people may think about it.
You could have the best set-up in the world, DJing is 90% about you, not the gear. It's mostly a learning and emotional process about your passion for it, how you want to do it, and finally, figure out if you have the chops to bring it to a professional level, or if it's just an hobby.
So start slow and have fun with it. Then add quality gear when you feel you reach a point where you think your gear is stopping you from getting better. See why, and how.
Gear will change every year until then. |
sorry martin you got me totally wrong.
you interpreted my three sentences like being together.
i was just suggesting a way to learn beatmatching. you don't learn beatmatching looking at a wave form. You can obviously use anything to mix. two turntables and 2 vinyls is what i've been told each time i've asked where to start. This way you don't learn mixing looking at wave forms and using auto mix :P
then i specified you need to develop your ear, like you said.
then i find djs that know about music, reading it, writing it, necessarily make more developed melodies. This just based on my perception of music production.
i never said mixing is making music... was only suggesting that you don't make music with software, if you wanna produce aligning sounds in garageband for me it's not writing music. A melody doesn't get created in software, it does in your head. Find a way to reproduce it after, yes using instruments & softwares.
and yes i'm not a dj. just been promoting you for 8 years :P |
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| Ravemontreal |
ha ha ok, makes sense Francis. Fair enough, it's true.
Anyway I knew Jay would start a vinyl/beatmatching reply so my post is still good. |
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| Ravemontreal |
| ... and yes you know your music. My post wasn't entirely answering yours. |
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| Fran666 |
| music is my life, I love it so much I don't have time to learn playing it. To much time taken on hearing it ;) |
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| dj_axel_klein |
being a dj sucks
you get drunk douchebags asking you for the most boring tracks every night WHEREVER you play
i hate my life
LOL. |
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