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Can you just shorten notes instead of gating them? (pg. 2)
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| OOPS! |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
You can shorten the notes but I don't think they will be long enough for gating them, afterward. |
No . I would do one or the other. :haha: |
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| OOPS! |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aurana
Its like driving automatic as apposed to manual. Both ways have there benefits and flaws. I feel I am limited to my creativity with leads using a Gate, but its easier to get your idea down. If I plot the notes myself, I can make the lead more dynamic and interesting but it also takes a lot more time. It all depends on the track you are working on and what you want out of it. Each technique is beneficial. |
Well said...
But I don't understand, how does it limit your creativity? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by OOPS!
No . I would do one or the other. :haha: |
What's the point of the question then? Are you asking if it's possible or how to do it? Honestly, either question seems to have fairly evident answers but maybe I'm forgetting who I was when I started. It just seems that one should be able to deduce that you must either sustain notes in order for a gate to work or play notes, as you'd like to hear them, without a gate. |
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| OOPS! |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
What's the point of the question then? Are you asking if it's possible or how to do it? Honestly, either question seems to have fairly evident answers but maybe I'm forgetting who I was when I started. It just seems that one should be able to deduce that you must either sustain notes in order for a gate to work or play notes, as you'd like to hear them, without a gate. |
Yeah, I'm basically just wondering if there is any difference between shortening notes by like you said deducing the sustain or just from via the VST or VSTi. Does it matter I guess you can say, technically speaking. :eyespop: |
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| DJ TL |
download mexoscope, im think its free, insert it after your vst. It will show you exactly what waveforms are being spat out in real time. set up two instances of the vst one with shorter notes.
If you use shorter notes im pretty sure it will sound almost the same except the release and possibly the decay/sustain phase will be cut off. |
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| EddieZilker |
| It depends. I've done both gating and playing it out, rhythmically. I've even mixed the two, having a gate running over chords I was sequencing rhythmically. |
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| DJ TL |
a gate and just shortening the notes is different. There should be an "attenuate" parameter or similar, which would at one extreme would silence anything under the threshold, or you could use it to fine tune noise reduction at the bottom levels of a sound.
gating is more or less cutting the low levels of a sound.
shortening a note is muting the end of it. Entirely.
ADSR settings can simulate a shortened note, by lowering the decay value with the sustain. |
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| cryophonik |
| oops - posted in the wrong thread. :stongue: |
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| OOPS! |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
oops - posted in the wrong thread. :stongue: |
Your mom posted in the wrong thread :p |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aurana
Its like driving automatic as apposed to manual. Both ways have there benefits and flaws. I feel I am limited to my creativity with leads using a Gate, but its easier to get your idea down. If I plot the notes myself, I can make the lead more dynamic and interesting but it also takes a lot more time. It all depends on the track you are working on and what you want out of it. Each technique is beneficial. |
That is a ridiculous analogy, especially since the performance of automatic gearboxes is on par with manuals these days. It's not the 90s.
If something is making your life easier and letting you output quality music more efficiently, why would you not do it? Are you now going to say that using a drum loop is also cheating? |
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| DJRYAN™ |
just turn the knob..
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| Pagan-za |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
Nobody is upset yet over this particular topic.... yet. I feel very passionate about gates though. Nobody gives them the time of day, and it upsets me that they are underrated. A side chained gate is the most sensual of layering tools. |
I find myself doing this more and more these days. One long sustained note with either an arp on it or pitch bending. Then use gating to make the notes instead.
Its especially cool when you use non-standard triggers for side-chaining. Instead of using the kick drum, set it to the percussion or a different lead or whatever. |
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