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what makes a good, complete, trance album?
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| madmuso |
Hi guys,
just wondering what you all think makes a good, solid, complete trance album. What are people expecting these days from a trance album? Also, can anyone recommend an album they think is a good example, i would like to check it out.
cheers, |
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| cryophonik |
| The same thing people always look for in a good album - good songs that are well-produced and flow together??? I guess I don't understand the question. |
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| Rodri Santos |
what i expect from a trance album is first of all quality (obvious) some artist just make 3-4 very good tracks and the rest of the album is just fillers.
-Different genres, sometimes my favourite track from a trance album is the chill out track, or the housier clubby track, some variety, in trance is classic to have some vocal tracks, some uplifting, some tech, some progressive, pumping and groovy tracks, melodic and relaxing tracks.... variety.
-The feeling that all it's made surrounding the same idea, this is actually the hardest thing, tracks should be different but have some common links, although this is not really important imagine it's a mix, usually people will listen to track 2 and then to track 3 so if 2 is a very relaxing track and 3 is a full on trance track... people will get out of their "State of trance", a good album should take you to a journey, you remind you pressed play once and suddenly the album has just stopped, 80 minutes have passed and you didn't notice but you feel great.
-Finally an album should involve some top notch collaborations, ideally with similar artists so you can improve the outcome of the track (and learning new techniques which is important for the future) or with different genre producers, to create something fresh.
If you want a recent good album try Leon Bolier - Phantasma , it's first album i buy in a lot of years. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Senator Clay Davis
dont forget analog sidechain. |
This thread would not have been complete without this sage advice.
Seriously, what the is going on around here at the moment?
The power of the noob has been extreme in recent threads. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by madmuso
Hi guys,
just wondering what you all think makes a good, solid, complete trance album. What are people expecting these days from a trance album? Also, can anyone recommend an album they think is a good example, i would like to check it out.
cheers, |
If you can't make a good track, don't bother trying to make 15. |
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| Storyteller |
| The album should be well produced/mixed/mastered and it should have a nice flow like you're listening to a Storyteller. |
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| Subtle |
Gareth Emery - Northern Lights is a pretty good Trance album.
But yeah, since a Trance mix compilation consists of music made by probably 30-50 people, its kinda hard to be one guy making a whole album. |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
The album should be well produced/mixed/mastered and it should have a nice flow like you're listening to a Storyteller. |
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| -FSP- |
| I personally would like to see some type of pace variation throughout albums. Not everything has to be banging all the time. |
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| derail |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
But yeah, since a Trance mix compilation consists of music made by probably 30-50 people, its kinda hard to be one guy making a whole album. |
I guess we should clarify whether madmuso means a mix compilation or an artist album.
If we are talking about albums - my favourite albums are those where every song is well written (i.e. no filler). As other people have said, you also need to consider the overall flow of the album - you want to take the listener on a larger journey. It'll get boring if all the songs are too similar in style, but won't flow if they're too dissimilar. Some artists use the same kick sound throughout an album to achieve some consistency.
It's a fair bit of work and is probably best done over a set timeframe - say, take a few months off work and focus on your album. If done over too long a timeframe it can be harder to achieve the same overall "album feel" for each of the songs. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by derail
I guess we should clarify whether madmuso means a mix compilation or an artist album. |
Im pretty sure he meant artist album, and that has to compete against a mix compilation which is where Trance is consumed the most.
I can probably count on one hand the amount of Trance artist albums that is as listenable as a good compilation.
Usually there is 3-4 tracks that really stands out and the rest are mere fillers. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Im pretty sure he meant artist album, and that has to compete against a mix compilation which is where Trance is consumed the most.
I can probably count on one hand the amount of Trance artist albums that is as listenable as a good compilation.
Usually there is 3-4 tracks that really stands out and the rest are mere fillers. |
Every single album that has ever existed has filler on it.
Albums shouldn't be a license for dumping your untested experimental tracks onto your fans. |
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