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METROPOLITAN TRANNY AUTHORITY presents: 'GENREF/CK' (pg. 2)
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| Lews |
| Mhm I do love some BLACK MUSIC. Downloadin'. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Mhm I do love some BLACK MUSIC. Downloadin'. |
I read this like it was a line from sling blade lol |
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| david.michael |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
I read this like it was a line from sling blade lol |
:stongue: :stongue: |
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| pozz |
| very groovy. nice mix. bumbadabump. |
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| MSZ |
| this was pretty sweet, i loved the 2nd half, can you tell me about that music? |
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| nefardec |
Starting where? What do you want to know exactly?
The last half features a lot of music that one would call 'post disco' or 'proto house', and then some classic chicago house. It's music that would have been played in the Paradise Garage in the 80s. The Mr. Fingers track is kind of italo-disco and synth pop oriented, and the Terre Thaemlitz Track is more of a retrospective of House Music, which I included as both a bridge into the modern soul of the Billy Love track (a Theo Parrish Production), and because I value Terre's worldview and artistic perspective as a transgender person/gender theorist, and a theorist on music and culture. House Music is indeed controlled desire you can own.
The mix as a whole runs more or less in a chronological order, and then the last track is sort of an "Amen", a track which means a lot to me personally.
In general I selected tracks with special attention given to the messages and vocals, and tried to put them together to create some kind of meaningful dialogue between them in the transition, but also across the mix as a whole.
Mostly though it's just music I love, arranged in a very thoughtful and hopefully entertaining way. |
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| MSZ |
no disrespect, but i didnt care for your message at all(im more into beats), i find sets get lost in translation a lot of the time.
07. Zwischenfall - Katastrophe is very sweet, i cant find much about it.
the tracks im most interested in are 37-77 i believe. quite enjoyed Virgo - Going Thru Life / Frankie Knuckles - Tears , its very progressive house synthy.
p.s. im quite drunk. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by MSZ
no disrespect, but i didnt care for your message at all(im more into beats), i find sets get lost in translation a lot of the time.
07. Zwischenfall - Katastrophe is very sweet, i cant find much about it.
the tracks im most interested in are 37-77 i believe. quite enjoyed Virgo - Going Thru Life / Frankie Knuckles - Tears , its very progressive house synthy.
p.s. im quite drunk. |
Well to each their own. I'm glad you could find something in it though that you enjoy. |
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| Mr Game+Watch |
Interesting selection of tunes, I took a listen to this a few times already. My favorite part was the housey/garagey stuff towards the end, of course. Frankie Knuckles, Patrice Rushen, and Mr Fingers especially. I also really dug the Talking Heads track, was listening to that part on repeat the other day.
My only complaint was with the mixing... it seems you've gone for a more energetic, full-on style where a number of mixes were out of sync. I think that there were a good number of spots where the tracks could have been beatmatched very easily (and I know you're quite adept at beatmatching) but you went for quick, cut-up mixing that clanged a bit.
But keep in mind, this is entirely personal preference. I know exactly what you were going for with the mixing (and I've lurked in the whole Theo Parrish thread so I know your opinions on beatmatching :P), and of course I like smooth blending (a byproduct of me getting into DJing by way of progressive house and the early GU series) :P |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
My only complaint was with the mixing... it seems you've gone for a more energetic, full-on style where a number of mixes were out of sync. I think that there were a good number of spots where the tracks could have been beatmatched very easily (and I know you're quite adept at beatmatching) but you went for quick, cut-up mixing that clanged a bit.
But keep in mind, this is entirely personal preference. I know exactly what you were going for with the mixing (and I've lurked in the whole Theo Parrish thread so I know your opinions on beatmatching :P), and of course I like smooth blending (a byproduct of me getting into DJing by way of progressive house and the early GU series) :P |
Yeah, smooth blends wouldn't really add anything to this mix IMO.
Now as far as beatmatching, it could be better, but I'm just not good enough at riding the pitch with these tracks to do it. In my opinion, it's done well enough to do what it needs to do. Many of these are live drumming, and they aren't structured all the same way as house and techno are. But, in the cases where the tracks are quantized and predictably structured, as in the house tracks at the end, I have employed that kind of mixing.
Sometimes it needs to go on and on, sometimes it needs to gently nod off, sometimes it needs to say ' that ', sometimes it needs to press the reset button and say 'hold up, let's do it this way now'.
Also, some transitions, like the patrice rushen track to the logg track go from 130 bpm to 116bpm. You might be able to get away with that on CD or ableton, but on Vinyl I'm limited to +8/-8. And I never would want to hear a 116bpm track above 120.
Working with emotions and musical phrases is always more important to me than beatmatching for the non-house music in this mix. What matters to me is how the different pieces of the tracks gesture to one another or interact with one another, what the tracks have to say, how they make people feel, what the emotional difference between two tracks does to people, and how the mix moves as a whole.
For house music that is super quantized and structured, you are almost required to mix it smoothly, also because generally all of it connects to generally all of it, because it has a much narrower range of rhythm and expression.
I'm not out to create a merely pleasant experience for people, I like to throw on the perfect record and make people lose their . I don't even think a DJ set has to be mixed at all to accomplish this.
It's a personal preference for sure. My personal feeling is that the smooth mixing has its place and mood, but I don't like listening to whole sets of it, as it bores the hell out of me. It's really my mood that determines when I want to mix long and smooth and when I don't, it reflects my attitude about the music and where we are in the set. Also keep in mind my audience for this mix is not house and techno people at all. Actually most of the people I'm giving this to as a demo to are people who are into older rock/punk, soul, dub/roots, and of course loft and garage music. |
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