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Do speakers or a sound system change their sound as the party progresses?
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| Guest |
I've talked to people, and dj's, and I've seen/heard this phenomenon myself. Early in the night for example the subs and mids might not be hitting the way you want. Then after warming up and running some juice through them they'll seem to hit a "sweet spot". I've noticed this on my home setup, doombot's setup, and seen it happen at clubs with noone changing the EQ settings or the amps.
Assume also the same amount of people in the room when the set starts and when it finishes. Has anyone ever noticed this and can any sound experts out there testify to this being real, or is it just a function of your mind reaching a certain level of engagement with the music after listening for an hour or 2? |
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| ReclusNdangrmnt |
| There could be a warm-up factor involved with the equipment...Or it could just be ear fatigue. |
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| evo8 |
Usually it will start at a lower volume for warm-up djs and because the club isnt full
Then when the main dj starts they will whack it up to give the whole thing a bit of a boost - amazing what a bit of extra volume can do for the senses
You also have to remember that all the bodies in the club will effect the acoustics as well |
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| Guest |
| quote: | Originally posted by evo8
Usually it will start at a lower volume for warm-up djs and because the club isnt full
Then when the main dj starts they will whack it up to give the whole thing a bit of a boost - amazing what a bit of extra volume can do for the senses
You also have to remember that all the bodies in the club will effect the acoustics as well |
I know you mean well but did you read my original post? I said assume same number of bodies on the floor and no changes to amps or EQ settings. I think something happens inside the speakers themselves. |
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| mathieu |
| Can't really say, im no expert. But, music deffinitely sounds better after a certain period of listening. I would make music for hours and it sounded good and the next morning when I played the project it would sound like . I dunno how to explain this. I guess the brain adapts to sound and enhances it or something. |
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| Settimo |
| It all comes down to the live sound guys...they're either good and the sound gets progressively better with each act; or they just suck, fail at mixing and overdrive the speakers. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by Guest
I know you mean well but did you read my original post? I said assume same number of bodies on the floor and no changes to amps or EQ settings. I think something happens inside the speakers themselves. |
You don't have to touch the EQs or amps to turn the volume up.
Its probably caused by the fletcher munsen effect, where tops and bottoms are perceived as louder at louder volumes. There may be some minimal effect of the speakers warming up I guess, but I doubt it would be noticable really. |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Guest
I know you mean well but did you read my original post? I said assume same number of bodies on the floor and no changes to amps or EQ settings. I think something happens inside the speakers themselves. |
nah i doubt anything is happening to the speakers, they would be well warmed up at that stage |
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| yonny |
| I dont know about speakers, but acording to the audiophiles dynamic drivers in headphones need atleast 30 mins to reach their optimal performance, that added to the burn-in on new headphones. |
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| Guest |
| some good ideas so far thanks guys. |
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| stevö |
| im pretty sure sound quality degrades when amps get overheated. when i host parties in my garage/shed out back, i have a decibel meter to make sure we dont get too loud and have cops come. well as the night goes on and the little home stereo amp gets really hot, we have to keep turning the volume up to keep the same level of loudness as earlier. i thought it was our ears getting shot but the decibel meter sure enough showed that it was quieter than before. so we keep turning the volume up higher and higher as the night goes on until finally the amp's level indicators are maxed out and the thing is so hot you could cook an egg on it, and then eventually the amp shuts itself off as a protection measure and i have to turn it off and back on, and also have to turn the volume down so it doesnt shut itself off again. anyway i imagine its not much different for professional club amps, they get tired as the night goes on. |
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| .JEKL. |
I was reading some where that your ears will adapt themselves to whatever speakers or sound system you're listening too and at a pretty decent rate. It's some sort of psychological effect.
part of the reason my mix engineers will switch back and forth between different monitors and take short breaks to help 'recalibrate' their ears. |
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