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How accurate is an inter-continental nuclear bomb/missile from us. (pg. 4)
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Joss Weatherby
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Originally posted by Lira
I've got a better war question.

There are more bachelors in China than there are soldiers in North Korea. Why won't the Chinese government just tell them that, if they take down the Korean dictatorship, they can marry as many Korean womens as they wish?

Of course, the Korean wives can also divorce their husbands afterwards, but no missile is more powerful than the force of testosterone!



All the NK women have big heads and wonky bodies from years of famine. Who wants that?
knowhope
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Originally posted by Lira
I've got a better war question.

There are more bachelors in China than there are soldiers in North Korea. Why won't the Chinese government just tell them that, if they take down the Korean dictatorship, they can marry as many Korean womens as they wish?

Of course, the Korean wives can also divorce their husbands afterwards, but no missile is more powerful than the force of testosterone!
Good question...

Either way, China will never let anyone interfere in N. Korea's affair. They think of N. Korea as their distant stupid cousin.
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by Lira
no missile is more powerful than the force of testosterone!


What about my testosterone missile? :gsmile:
knowhope
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
All the NK women have big heads and wonky bodies from years of famine. Who wants that?
If men in China suicide because they weren't able to get on with girl, i honestly don't think they bitch about those characteristics.
Lira
I bet anyone unable to find a partner would go Jong Ill on all these Kims:



We need to take this into consideration, Nou. How much time would it take for the power of love to free North Korea?
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
What about my testosterone missile? :gsmile:

Every rule has an exception. In this case, the Testusterone missile.
cmay119
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Didn't see the edits.

EDIT 1: Pure fusion weapons would not produce fallout (they would produce radiation though in the blast).

EDIT 2: Most very high yield weapons are suspected of all being at least three stages (fission primary, fusion secondary, and then a third fission stage). Mainly they use three stages because they more efficiently produce a higher yield. You can get a higher yield in a smaller physical package if you introduce a stage that undergoes fission from the fusion pressure/heat.

That being said, Tsar Bomba was only two stages, its third stage was made out of lead, and its yield was 57Mt. The intended design had a uranium third stage (btw this third stage is called the tamper) and was expected to be over 100Mt.

On a similar note, most modern variable yield weapons are expected to use a variable output neutron generator to increase/decrease yield.


Thank you, very interesting. Would there be a long half-life from the radiation in the blast? Or would it dissipate rather quickly?

Yes, I was aware of the original yield was supposed to be 100+ Megatons in the Czar Bomba, was the Lead used as a moderator to stop/slow the fission process, and bring down the yield? Certainly Lead is not a supportive material in Fission, unless I'm mistaken? Would Carbon be similarly effective in moderating the yield? I believe Carbon control rods are used in Boiling-Water & Pressurized-Water reactors, correct?
Joss Weatherby
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Originally posted by cmay119
Thank you, very interesting. Would there be a long half-life from the radiation in the blast? Or would it dissipate rather quickly?

Yes, I was aware of the original yield was supposed to be 100+ Megatons in the Czar Bomba, was the Lead used as a moderator to stop/slow the fission process, and bring down the yield? Certainly Lead is not a supportive material in Fission, unless I'm mistaken? Would Carbon be similarly effective in moderating the yield? I believe Carbon control rods are used in Boiling-Water & Pressurized-Water reactors, correct?


Fusion creates free neutrons (part of the reason why its effective to use Uranium as the tamper material, since it undergoes fission from these free neutrons) that can possibly ionize other materials, so it depends on what is exposed to the radiation pulse from the blast.

As for Tsar Bomba, lead is actually a good neutron reflector, but it is not reactive like uranium is.

I forgot to mention that the uranium tamper is made of natural uranium, U-238, not the lighter isotope that primary cores are made of, U-235.
knowhope
What's your theory on the nuclear power. The fact that we have enough nuclear bombs to destroy the earth multiple time, what's your prediction of the future for these bad boys? *I know i'm not only asking about missiles and such, but politics. I'm sure i'm not asking you much, since you seem knowledgeable.*
justin
totally cracking man, I need help

BTW this thread sucks
Moongoose
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Originally posted by knowhope
What's your theory on the nuclear power. The fact that we have enough nuclear bombs to destroy the earth multiple time, what's your prediction of the future for these bad boys? *I know i'm not only asking about missiles and such, but politics. I'm sure i'm not asking you much, since you seem knowledgeable.*



Think of it like this, the big guys (US, Russia) have smartened up and are working against disarmament (though you have to nudge the republicans a bit to get them to fall in line). EU nations have a nuke or two just so that they can say that they have them, no danger there.

What you need to worry about are the axis of crazy countries. Pakistan, Israel, North Korea, throw in India as well. Problem here being, if theres a political disagreement there is a chance to talk it over. On the other hand if god is telling you to wipe the heathens out, there is no debate. Pakistan and India dont really like eachother. Outside of US nobody actuaqly likes or cares about israel, and at the moment the world is higly amused at Lil Kims antics until he shows he can do some real damage with his epic level of crazy.

knowhope
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Originally posted by Moongoose
Think of it like this, the big guys (US, Russia) have smartened up and are working against disarmament (though you have to nudge the republicans a bit to get them to fall in line). EU nations have a nuke or two just so that they can say that they have them, no danger there.

What you need to worry about are the axis of crazy countries. Pakistan, Israel, North Korea, throw in India as well. Problem here being, if theres a political disagreement there is a chance to talk it over. On the other hand if god is telling you to wipe the heathens out, there is no debate. Pakistan and India dont really like eachother. Outside of US nobody actuaqly likes or cares about israel, and at the moment the world is higly amused at Lil Kims antics until he shows he can do some real damage with his epic level of crazy.
Moongoose, i seriously lol'ed on the list of crazy countries.
Joss Weatherby
I think the over all number of weapons will go down in to the future, but they will never be totally gone. Once the nuclear genie is out of the bottle its too late to stuff it all back in. People are too paranoid, and rightfully so, nuclear weapons are terrible terrible things.

You have to remember that a simple nuclear device is not hard to build, its incredibly simple. The hard part is aquiring the materials to build one, but Russia still has, 20 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, tons and tons of unsecured fissile material, and even fissionable material.

It is also not hard for any modern country to refine their own, its not a technology problem, but a money/resources problem.

As for power... Well that has to stick around. Right now there is no viable alternative for clean production of energy. If we can solve the nuclear waste issue then nuclear could easily provide the bulk of the worlds energy demands. Its too bad that people are scared easily by things they do not understand, like at Fukushima. :( Germany is making a huge mistake in committing to be nuclear free in the next 17 years. Total insanity in my book. They will probably end up just buying nuclear power from their neighbors, and strategically their interests will be compromised.
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