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Need some serious help, intermediate trance producer here, please :) (pg. 2)
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| lp026713389 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
You're confused because you're approaching things from the wrong direction.
You're asking what instruments to apply certain effects to, and expecting us to enumerate a list of instruments and the effects to apply in this sort of mechanistic way. That's not how it works.
You'll find that understanding what the effects do will allow you to make those choices for yourself, and work out when you should apply them and what the results should be. So you should probably look at what compression, "soundgoodizer" (wtf) and everything else is actually doing to the soudn to determine whether thats something that needs doing to YOUR sound.
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And it should be bleedingly bloody obvious that these details would be found either by the mystical powers of google or using the stickies (which you undoubtedly looked straight past in your quest for the "new post" button). |
I've never thought about it that way before, but that makes perfect sense. Thank you so much for your reply :) |
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| lp026713389 |
| quote: | Originally posted by CalvP
I know right now you're probably feeling daunted by all these details, but you have to remember not ALL of this will be relevant. If you take it one subject at a time (making sure you do as much practical as theory) it will all start to click believe me:)
Nick Thomas Guide To Mixing this is a great free in depth PDF on all things mixing.
Sound Synthesis Education this has all the synthesis info you could ever need.
Rick Snoman Dance Music Manual: Volume 2: Music Theory and Practical Composition & this is a great book if you fancy splashing some $;)
Everyone favours a different learning style, some like following videos, some like reading books, some like trial & error etc work out which method works best for you & get your head down...make sure in 6 months time you come back & share your new found knowledge on here though ok:p |
I'm on it! THANKS! :D |
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| lp026713389 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Normie
Go to www.boyinaband.com
Dave, the dude over there, uses Reason but his 7 day song tutorials will give you a great insight into different ways of using effects and why. These tuts are pretty thorough and helped me immensely starting from scratch. His tut on Trance covers everything from sidechaining to arps to gating to pretty much all of it.
There are far more detailed/specific tuts available and you may love or hate the songs themselves but he covers a lot of ground professionally and in an easy to understand manner. There are a number of genres he covers so give them a shot. And no, I am in no way associated with him or his site/band.
Be prepared for British humor ;) |
THANK YOU! :D |
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| skyhunter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Normie
Go to www.boyinaband.com
Dave, the dude over there, uses Reason but his 7 day song tutorials will give you a great insight into different ways of using effects and why. These tuts are pretty thorough and helped me immensely starting from scratch. His tut on Trance covers everything from sidechaining to arps to gating to pretty much all of it.
There are far more detailed/specific tuts available and you may love or hate the songs themselves but he covers a lot of ground professionally and in an easy to understand manner. There are a number of genres he covers so give them a shot. And no, I am in no way associated with him or his site/band.
Be prepared for British humor ;) |
This man speaks the truth. B.I.A.B. is my religion |
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| Normie |
Preach it Brother! ;)
IMO, BIAB/Dave Brown is an incredible teacher. I have learned so much, so fast there. And the way he presents info makes it easy to go out and find more on a given subject, since he gives so much background on the 'why' aspect. |
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| lp026713389 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Normie
Go to www.boyinaband.com
Dave, the dude over there, uses Reason but his 7 day song tutorials will give you a great insight into different ways of using effects and why. These tuts are pretty thorough and helped me immensely starting from scratch. His tut on Trance covers everything from sidechaining to arps to gating to pretty much all of it.
There are far more detailed/specific tuts available and you may love or hate the songs themselves but he covers a lot of ground professionally and in an easy to understand manner. There are a number of genres he covers so give them a shot. And no, I am in no way associated with him or his site/band.
Be prepared for British humor ;) |
I am reaaaally surprised at how well this guy knows his stuff. He doesn't have an uplifting trance tutorial, but he does have a prog house tutorial which I'm a big fan of. So I'll watch that one. And his sense of humor is just hilarious :D |
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| Pagan-za |
Out of interest, I downloaded the 7day psytrance vids from BIAB, and I must say, they were way better than I expected.
Rather enjoy watching them and I'm planning to get a few more.
I just enjoy watching stuff like this when I'm bored, and thats one of the better series I've seen. |
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| Omair Mirza |
| boy in a band is a great site. does anyone know of a similar site for Ableton users? |
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| Storyteller |
Checked his proghouse tutorial a few days ago. Not really anything new but nevertheless very insightful. This guy is really good at explaining things in a simple, funny and pleasant way.
Shouldn't be too hard to translate what he says to any other sequencer if you put some time into it, right? Just take an alternate plugin than he does and do a similar thing in Ableton for instance? |
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| Zeus Alvarado |
| I would recommend reading some good books to get a hold of the basics of what you want to learn. After you learn some theory, its a matter of practicing. Some good books that I have read and highly recommend are "Dance Music Manual (second edition)" by Rick Snoman and "How to make a noise" by Simon Cann. These incredible books will walk you through the basics of sound design, and were written for producers in mind. If memory serves me well, I believe the "How to make a noise" ebook is actually distributed free of charge, try giving it a search. |
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| Omair Mirza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zeus Alvarado
I would recommend reading some good books to get a hold of the basics of what you want to learn. After you learn some theory, its a matter of practicing. Some good books that I have read and highly recommend are "Dance Music Manual (second edition)" by Rick Snoman and "How to make a noise" by Simon Cann. These incredible books will walk you through the basics of sound design, and were written for producers in mind. If memory serves me well, I believe the "How to make a noise" ebook is actually distributed free of charge, try giving it a search. |
Thanks a lot for the reading material advice! The "How To Make A Noise" is free for the digital version, but I am having all sorts of problems trying to get the file to open. Anyone else have this problem? |
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| skyhunter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
Shouldn't be too hard to translate what he says to any other sequencer if you put some time into it, right? Just take an alternate plugin than he does and do a similar thing in Ableton for instance? |
In FL Studio, just replace Thor with instances of Synth 1 and 3xosc and layer as needed :D |
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