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Norway Tragedy (pg. 5)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
Get the out of this thread and take your with you. This is your one and only warning. |
:stongue: the black helicopters gonna come get me? |
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| Magnetonium |
PKC, you overstepped logical boundaries with this bull ... you either discuss the topic at hand, or GTFO. This is not a 9/11 or a conspiracy thread (which you love so much), I don't want to be part of it. Have you ever really thought about how it is getting to your head? I let go of it long ago, so should you. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| You’re the only one that’s mentioned 911, crackpot. I was responding to your absurd and instant need to consider everything a conspiracy (as per your original post). |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by jon jon
the minute they change their way of life, he's won |
He already won, big time. He got more publicity than he wanted or expected. The internet and the media is filled with his entire life story (parents, friends, bla bla), entire detailed script of how-he-did-it and how-he-planned-it and so forth. The whole manifesto is gradually coming into public view. Its sickening, the media should not be publishing this .
And yeah, he had accomplices / other cells waiting around (for future attacks?).
So I don't think Norwegian government should be treating this scumbag like the typical criminals, this guy needs to be taught a lesson. But I doubt this is gonna happen. I disagree with your statement - they don't have to change their way of life, but they need to deal with this guy and this serious situation differently, or else this could (and probably will) get worse. I can already see future attacks like this happening again, either in Norway or elsewhere in Europe. The more you read about this, the more you realize that its only a matter of time.
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
He already won
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ur right |
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| GGM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
He already won, big time. He got more publicity than he wanted or expected. The internet and the media is filled with his entire life story (parents, friends, bla bla), entire detailed script of how-he-did-it and how-he-planned-it and so forth. The whole manifesto is gradually coming into public view. Its sickening, the media should not be publishing this .
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This sums up terrorism success in every form. The acts are never successful or not successful, it's the post event reaction from the media and us that makes them a success. Only terrorist act I've seen partially fail was the Madrid train bombings in 2004 when many journalists put down there cameras and refused to give coverage to the event.
Ultimately you can sum up the majority of terrorist acts with the intention of #1 getting exposure for a certain ideology, #2 creating terror (duh) and causing people to believe/think something they otherwise wouldn't. You can spend as much on defense and military as you want, give up your freedom and privacy, but ultimately it can only prevented with your actions. If you want terrorism to lose all effectiveness, just stop caring. Pay honours to the dead and curse the criminals but beyond that and you're only giving value to his actions. |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by GGM
This sums up terrorism success in every form. The acts are never successful or not successful, it's the post event reaction from the media and us that makes them a success. Only terrorist act I've seen partially fail was the Madrid train bombings in 2004 when many journalists put down there cameras and refused to give coverage to the event. |
I don't think it's a 'fail' when it achieved its purpose, which was to change the outcome of the elections and consequent ceasation of Spain's involvement in Iraq.
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Ultimately you can sum up the majority of terrorist acts with the intention of #1 getting exposure for a certain ideology, #2 creating terror (duh) and causing people to believe/think something they otherwise wouldn't. You can spend as much on defense and military as you want, give up your freedom and privacy, but ultimately it can only prevented with your actions. |
yep
| quote: | | If you want terrorism to lose all effectiveness, just stop caring. Pay honours to the dead and curse the criminals but beyond that and you're only giving value to his actions. |
nope. ignorance and apathy are breeding ground for any sort of injustice
learn the lessons of this tragedy. don't be a sheep. if you can do something to stop terrorism from perpetuating, then do it. it can be as little as stopping a moron from making asinine ignorant stereotype about other races, like all Muslims are terrorists.
educate yourself, then others if possible. promote understanding and dialogue among difference groups, so that people can learn about each other and stop the prejudice and stereotypes from spreading, as well the fear of other groups that people do not understand.
only then will terrorism stop spreading. (well, at least in my dream world) |
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| FunkyCrew |
ah but see, a lot of people do not care nor want to listen
unfortunately ignorance is stronger :( |
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| nifty narcotix |
| This is pretty messed up. I was in Oslo about a year ago for a wedding, and at the time it struck us as a place where not much really happens. Though it is the capital of Norway, it's not really a big city. Takes maybe 20 to 30 minutes to public transit across it. People there generally are pretty well off, and tend to mind their own business. It's also a really clean place, which makes the images of rubble, dust, and bloody people in the streets that much more striking. Those beautiful Scandinavians did not deserve this. RIP |
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by GGM
Only terrorist act I've seen partially fail was the Madrid train bombings in 2004 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
I don't think it's a 'fail' when it achieved its purpose, which was to change the outcome of the elections and consequent ceasation of Spain's involvement in Iraq.
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lol totally |
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| 1dawoman |
21 years? that's it???
They need to lock him up for the rest of his life and study him to learn about how to prevent other extremists from committing such acts. |
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