In case some of you are interested. Interesting video that I was just given to watch and discuss in my class. I like his points.
VDub
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Originally posted by nefardec
don't believe in god = atheist
end of story
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Originally posted by OrangestO
End of story?
It's not that simple. I was actually looking for more of a thought-out and insightful answer.
I don't believe in a God, but I don't consider myself Atheist either. I hate being categorized, and that's the part of religion that I dislike the most. People claim to be "this" or "that" religion because it's common practice among society according to their belief, yet many times find themselves being hypocrites to the same religion they practice and supposedly adhere to. What's the point of a certain religious label, if there no credibility behind it?
I find inner-peace with nature at times (spiritually, and scientifically), but I don't consider myself part of a Naturalistic Nature Religion of some sorts.
This sounds kinda familiar there Nef...
:haha: :haha: :haha:
Lews
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Originally posted by nefardec
I'm not that sure anymore. People fall into three camps:
- bigoted idiots who demean me at any chance.
- people who feign acceptance, so long as i don't talk about it.
- people who keep quiet.
edit, a 4th
- trolls who pretend to be the first because they crave approval from the TA hive mind
Hey, there is a 5th category of people who are accepting and nice. I said good on you and good luck, you bitch :mad:
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by OrangestO
End of story?
It's not that simple. I was actually looking for more of a thought-out and insightful answer.
I don't believe in a God, but I don't consider myself Atheist either. I hate being categorized, and that's the part of religion that I dislike the most. People claim to be "this" or "that" religion because it's common practice among society according to their belief, yet many times find themselves being hypocrites to the same religion they practice and supposedly adhere to. What's the point of a certain religious label, if there no credibility behind it?
I find inner-peace with nature at times (spiritually, and scientifically), but I don't consider myself part of a Naturalistic Nature Religion of some sorts.
Yeah, kinda like IGK likes to molest children but doesn’t like to be called a kiddie er.
nefardec
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Originally posted by OrangestO
End of story?
It's not that simple. I was actually looking for more of a thought-out and insightful answer.
I don't believe in a God, but I don't consider myself Atheist either. I hate being categorized, and that's the part of religion that I dislike the most. People claim to be "this" or "that" religion because it's common practice among society according to their belief, yet many times find themselves being hypocrites to the same religion they practice and supposedly adhere to. What's the point of a certain religious label, if there no credibility behind it?
I find inner-peace with nature at times (spiritually, and scientifically), but I don't consider myself part of a Naturalistic Nature Religion of some sorts.
do you know what the word atheist means?
I study the spiritualistic philosophy of advaita vedanta, which is indeed atheistic.
nefardec
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Originally posted by VDub
Endyo and Nefardec...
The King and QUEEN(happy?) of hypocrisy in this thread...
I can't call a guy a he but they can call me an idiot, a bigot, and a caveman.
I don't think that either of you have ever met or spoken with me either...
i'm pretty sure i've conversed with you more than you've seen my genitals.
i hope i'm right.
OrangestO
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Originally posted by nefardec
do you know what the word atheist means?
I study the spiritualistic philosophy of advaita vedanta, which is indeed atheistic.
Yes.
-and-
I don't study that. So what does it have to do with me?
nefardec
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Originally posted by OrangestO
Yes.
-and-
I don't study that. So what does it have to do with me?
i mean I am not an atheist of the woscar or sam harris or dawkins school, being more interested in self knowledge than scientific knowledge, but i'm still an atheist nonetheless, because I don't believe in god.
there are all sorts of atheists. i also dont typically call myself an atheist because i don't like to be associate with the militant science fanboys
Alex
But you are a run of the mill arrogant jackass wannabe know-it-all.
OrangestO
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Alan Watts said
"Atheism in the name of God is an abandonment of all religious beliefs... giving up the attempt to make sense of the world in terms of any fixed idea or intellectual system. It is becoming again as a child and laying oneself open to reality as it is actually and directly felt, experiencing it without trying to categorize, identify or name it."
I guess according the Mr. Watts I'm Atheist. I still dislike the categorization, though.
nefardec
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Originally posted by OrangestO
It is becoming again as a child and laying oneself open to reality as it is actually and directly felt, experiencing it without trying to categorize, identify or name it."
the best part of that is it's IMO a great description of true mysticism, and probably how most saints and great spiritual thinkers would describe it.
the thing is when true mystics say 'god' (or Brahman, Beingness, Implicate Order, etc) what they mean is 'reality' as used in that sentence. there's a reason why the name of god is guarded in some religions, and why idols are banned in others. same principle, but somewhere along the line, people forgot what it was all about and just started caring about the rules for the rules' sakes.
OrangestO
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Originally posted by nefardec
the best part of that is it's IMO a great description of true mysticism, and probably how most saints and great spiritual thinkers would describe it.
Alan Watts was a great spiritual thinker, according to many.
