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How would you define morality & justice?
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| mr.bison |
One of the biggest problems I find in any discussion involving morality, is that no one has any clear idea about what exactly morality is.
I also notice that all such discussions confuse morality with justice, leading to all sorts of strange contradictions. |
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| VAR |
morality -
mo·ral·i·ty
[muh-ral-i-tee, maw-]
–noun, plural
1. conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct.
justice -
jus·tice
[juhs-tis]
–noun
1.the moral principle determining just conduct.
with that being said, your question leads us into the realm of belief, which is a very dangerous thing.
most conflicts stem from differences in beliefs. |
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| aNYthing |
Morality: Zyclon Jay realizes he has none of it and hangs himself
Justice: he is leveled by a bulldozer in one final act of dying for his art
Poetic justice: bulldozer was operated by a Jew... |
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| VDub |
| quote: | Originally posted by aNYthing
Morality: Zyclon Jay realizes he has none of it and hangs himself
Justice: he is leveled by a bulldozer in one final act of dying for his art
Poetic justice: bulldozer was operated by a Jew... |
Sad truth: unlikely that any of this will happen... |
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| VAR |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
Sad truth: unlikely that any of this will happen... |
ja, everyone knows that Jews can't operate bulldozers- sheesh!
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| Znack |
| I think it's clear that neither "morality-in-itself" nor "justice-in-itself" exists. Such concepts are created, not discovered. "Morality", in my view, is an expression of the perceived conditions of preservation and growth, contingently encountered in the world by an individual. |
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| VAR |
| "There's no right, there's no wrong, there's only popular opinion." Jeffrey Goines, movie Twelve Monkeys |
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| Capitalizt |
| quote: | Originally posted by clay
moral: for the greater good. if something is bad for one, but good for two, then its morally acceptable. you can take it a bit further and use weight on it. if something is a little bad for one, but very good for someone else, then its morally acceptable. |
So if we could enslave 30% of the population to make life vastly better for the remaining 70%, that would be morally acceptable to you? |
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| EddieZilker |
| That which can be measurably demonstrated to do no harm, even while having the capacity to benefit one or more parties. |
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| aNYthing |
| quote: | Originally posted by VAR
ja, everyone knows that Jews can't operate bulldozers- sheesh!
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That's why we hire blacks and hispanics to do it for us. but we still own the bitch. And that's affirmative action in action...
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| Blake |
| morality & justice aren't real things. they don't actually exist. we just made them up, like everything else. |
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