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djfearny
Hi There. Sorry for late reply.

I do mean a second set of monitor yes and not a sub.
I just want something which is going to suit my tech trance feel to my tracks and something which I can be comfortable using.

I have thought about the rocket8 yamaha80 and just wondered if people had any good ideas for me. I havnt got massive money unfortunately but I also
Don't think I need to spend big to satisfy what I'm looking for.

My room won't be massive when its finished and I will be pretty close to the monitors where I will be sitting. Also the room will be acoustically treated but nothing major

Thanks is advance

Fearny
djfearny
Hi mate

The room will be about 4m long and 2.5wide

I like the events but sometimes sound a little muddy when mixing for a while

I don't necessarily want something that pumps but more what is going to be accrue to most systems but still had sone nice feel to the low end

I know that the money isn't going to stretch a massive amount but I can manage a lite more if needed. Only to about 600 pounds thou.

I don't want to be blasting it out at high volumes and find the events are better at higher volumes so as you say about a smaller speaker might just help me

I just want to make the right decision

Thanks in advance.
djfearny
You Are a great help thank you

I suppose in a way I just fancy a new set for some reason
But not wanting to spend money with no point also

Will the small monitors go low enough for a decent mix etc. Thats the only thing that worries me.

Do u have any more ideas on some small monitors to get or do u think the yamaha will do me nicely.

Thanks again
Stef
quote:
Originally posted by CalvP
Acoustic treatment & learning your monitors is essential for having a mix that translates outside of the room BUT budget monitors (like the truths) are not transparent, therefore give a false representation. The artists you speak of either use another set of monitors, pay somebody to use another set of monitors, or just estimate & leave it down to luck; just like those who use headphones only, intuition can only get you so far imo!

They seem to be good enough for Sean Tyas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GijhE1K6oqM

as well as Ian Carey
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


Personally I keep my studio as simple as possible and have experienced a lot of positive response to my music. Though judging by your gear list we have very different ideas of whats necessary
:)
Beatflux
quote:
Originally posted by clay
focals are awesome, threated room or not, it will help your mixes. im so sorry that i didnt get proper monitors earlier, all that time wasted on not hearing whats going on. all my tracks sounds like , and first now 7 years later i can hear whats wrong with them cause of my new monitors. ing 7 years thinking my first monitors where good enough, people take this advice: monitors are the most important gear you will ever buy! you should use a whole month payment on it.


What were your old pair?
clay
ESI nEar 05 Experience. ing monitors made everything sound good. I could fart in the mic and think, yes this sounds pretty good, lets use it.
DJ RANN
I've been trying to avoid getting in to another monitor thread, but I've lost.

Firstly, whoever suggested auratone mixcubes needs to do some more learning.

We have them at work and they are a fourth tier reference set of speakers, specifically for checking what your mix would sound like through crap built in TV speakers. I don;t we've we've ever used them for commercially released music project, and they'd be little to all use with EDM, unless you;re making EDM for TV adverts.

Secondly, subs: stay the away. I don;t get why people don't still understand thi as it's been done to death on here and on every other forum I can think of.

Here's why you do not want to go there:

1, We mix in Stereo. Not 2.1, the ".1" is for a dedicated LFE channel, which stereo mixing does not have. So even from that point, you're muddying the waters in terms reference monitoring.

2, There is no standardised crossover point for a sub on a stereo system, and it't all done at the sole discretion of the manufacturer and all vary. This means one sub may have a different crossover point to another and may sound completely different, and I'm not even taking in to consideration what frequencies the accompanying monitors are meant to handle or how that specific combination will work together (enter quagmire here).

3, Stereo monitors should have more than enough bass response - accuracy is kind of the point in having reference monitors. If they don't, the solution is not buy some whacking great bass driver to cover up their shortcomings.

4, Subs are annoyingly difficult to place correctly even in a treated room as there are so many factors that come in to play.

I could go on but you get the point. Don't get me wrong, subs certainly have their place but that's in a treated room, with careful placement and on 5.1+ mixing system.

Finally, read this thread if you want to know about monitors. It's a bit lengthy but worth it - a lot of good contributors plus a lot of consensing from many previous threads specifically about monitors.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...25#post10917425

Oh, one last thing, with monitors, don't go for middle ground - the way the market currently is, there are only a few models that truly stand out in each price bracket - it's either go cheap or pony up the big bucks. The reasons for this is that tehre are some cheap monitors out there that perform so well, it;s not worth spending a little more to get a tiny increase (if any), but when you spend a lot (and spend it right) you get real quality and a huge performance upgrade.
EddieZilker
You only need one monitor because 91.2354564% of club PA's are mono, anyway.

:p



Actually, just bumping this for RANN's Reply.
djfearny
quote:
it's either go cheap or pony up the big bucks. The reasons for this is that tehre are some cheap monitors out there that perform so well, it;s not worth spending a little more to get a tiny increase (if any), but when you spend a lot (and spend it right) you get real quality and a huge performance upgrade.


if you were me with about £500 to spend on a new set, what would you go for at this time

thanks
clay
quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
You only need one monitor because 91.2354564% of club PA's are mono, anyway.

:p



dont you ing dare to open the pandoras box there boy :whip:

:stongue: :stongue:

clay
quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...25#post10917425



oh how i miss being conway twitty
DJ RANN
quote:
Originally posted by djfearny
if you were me with about £500 to spend on a new set, what would you go for at this time

thanks


Well, if you read the thread, it has info/links to the reviews of most of the commonly avialble monitors on the market.

Personally I would forget HS50's - they're nice in detail but the lack of bass in not acceptable at their price range. Sure they're good quality, but you;re paying for the mackie name and there are other monitors for less or same price that perform just as well, if not better.

The HS80's are great monitors, but they have trouble in small rooms - your room is right on the edge of what would be considered small but if you can set them up OK you should be fine and of course treatment will make the job easier.

Otherwise go for the JBL LSR2325p - Although only 6" monitors, they have impressive bass response and are the most flat monitors you can buy at that price.

Personally, I would not bother spending a grand on monitors - I would save up the rest and go for focal twins or barefoots if you're really that serious. The reason is that budget monitors are so good that you don't see a significant return on more investment until you invest quite a bit.

As I said it's go cheap or pony up.
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