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| runawaywaffle3 |
| None of my individual channels are clipping but my master channel is clipping thru the roof so to speak. Any idea why? I am only using 7 channels, and each one is EQ'ed properly, some are even gated. |
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| Andy28 |
| turn them down then |
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| clay |
| what do you mean properly EQed? if your channels have interfering frequences you have to lower the volume with -3dB for each sound that is interfering. or EQ more properly, but sounds will always interfere. your channels shouldnt go above -10 to -15dB maybe. just lower them. |
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| runawaywaffle3 |
| What i meant by properly EQed was that the frequencies are not interfering. As for turning down the volume, i even put all my channels at -25 dB and i was still clipping on the master. |
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| Andy28 |
| and you aint got out on the master channel?? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by runawaywaffle3
What i meant by properly EQed was that the frequencies are not interfering. As for turning down the volume, i even put all my channels at -25 dB and i was still clipping on the master. |
Have you ever heard of phase modulation? |
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| clay |
| how do you know they are not interfering? try solo one channel and read the dB on your master. then include another channel (everything but two channels mute), then read the masterlevel again. does it change? yes? interfering frequencies. do this with every channel combination and you have your answer: more eqing (removal always, never add), and lower level. i do not believe your channels are at -25dB btw. maybe the fader is on the -25dB position but then your instruments are +10 or 15 leaving it to be -10 at best. or have you maybe a compressor on the master? |
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| runawaywaffle3 |
| i have heard of it but i never knew the specifics of it. Do you think it has something to do with my problem? |
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| runawaywaffle3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by clay
how do you know they are not interfering? try solo one channel and read the dB on your master. then include another channel (everything but two channels mute), then read the masterlevel again. does it change? yes? interfering frequencies. do this with every channel combination and you have your answer: more eqing (removal always, never add), and lower level. i do not believe your channels are at -25dB btw. maybe the fader is on the -25dB position but then your instruments are +10 or 15 leaving it to be -10 at best. or have you maybe a compressor on the master? |
ill try soloing the channels, and well yes you are right it is only the fader at -25db. There is nothing on the master channel |
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| clay |
| read the meters, not the fader positions. if you have 7 channels reading at -25dB each, your tracks isnt clipping, even if all those channels were bassdrums. 7*3dB = 21db -> master 21-25 = -4dB (if the sound on each is the same, if different: even less) -> not clipping. so your channel levels are louder than -25 no doubt. and they are interfering. |
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| runawaywaffle3 |
| alright i think i figured it out, thanks for all your help |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by runawaywaffle3
i have heard of it but i never knew the specifics of it. Do you think it has something to do with my problem? |
Honestly, there's 100 different things you could be doing wrong. If there are only seven channels in your track and all of those channels are pulled down by -25 dB (which is ridiculous, btw), phase modulation is the most likely culprit since it can amount to a multiplicative product of two distinctly identical signals.
Trouble-shoot:
1. Solo your loudest track.
If your master is clipping, make sure your master is set to -6 dB. Then, turn the solo'd track down until it is no longer clipping.
2. Keeping the solo on your loudest track armed, solo the next loudest track.
If the master starts clipping again, turn both tracks down to taste until the clipping issue resolves.
3. Repeat this process with all of the tracks.
4. Pay attention to tracks which may have identical signals in their path. Your kick-drum and your bass-line may be phasing off of one another, for instance. |
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