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sensorium
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Originally posted by djhaziel
Still Ozil's reaction is not justified... talking trash is a part of football and many other sports, if as a pro-player u can't manage to handle that then you should dedicate yourself to something else.

Interesting. So following your reasoning, racism can also be used as trash-talking? And since it is the player that should handle it all, are the fans also permitted to use racism in their chants because the player is a pro? Trash-talking (chants) from the fans also counts as part of the game, right?

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights
I saw Mourihno smacked one of the Barca assistant coaches too :haha: :haha:

It was more of a pinch in the eye.
Chimney
Can someone fill me in on what happened?
Lira
Can't they make that even more dramatic?! :stongue:

That background music is so epic I could swear the newscaster would say at some point "And here we see Carvalho - who recently converted to an Ancient Aztec religion - drawing a knife and slaying all his team mates in a sacrifice to the Sun Goddess... until, that is, Ozil and Duke Nukem stop the carnage with a couple of HK-47's they happened to see laying around" :p
dr.america
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Originally posted by sensorium
So following your reasoning, racism can also be used as trash-talking?

wtf has racism to do with trashing religion?
Sushipunk
All I read in this entire thread was:


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Originally posted by dr.america
Camp Nou
sensorium
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Originally posted by dr.america
wtf has racism to do with trashing religion?

it was a question to djhaziel. so the fact that you didn't get it doesn't really matter. :)
dr.america
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Originally posted by sensorium
it was a question to djhaziel. so the fact that you didn't get it doesn't really matter. :)

Its just stupid mixing racism in to this
sensorium
quote:
Originally posted by dr.america
Its just stupid mixing racism in to this

not mixing it at all. it was a general question.
djhaziel
quote:
Originally posted by sensorium
Interesting. So following your reasoning, racism can also be used as trash-talking? And since it is the player that should handle it all, are the fans also permitted to use racism in their chants because the player is a pro? Trash-talking (chants) from the fans also counts as part of the game, right?


Have you ever been to a football match or played football at all? .... lol ?
dr.america
quote:
Originally posted by sensorium
not mixing it at all. it was a general question.

Racism is a criminal offence. Trashing religion is not.

sensorium
quote:
Originally posted by djhaziel
Have you ever been to a football match or played football at all? .... lol ?

Yes to both, actually. Thanks for ignoring my questions and thus cowardly walking away from this.

The point I was trying to make is that FIFA has been trying to eliminate racism from the game, more in Europe where it is more pronounced. So the organization wants it out of football, not used in any form of trash-talk.

The questions directed to you were to see where you stood on this, if there was a line for you in all of this.

Anyway, back on topic, religion itself can be a delicate issue for a lot of people, even if they happen to be pro. In any case, it hasn't been confirmed whether Villa said something about religion or not. But you can see in the video that Ozil did respond furiously, not after the pushing from Villa nor from Valdes, but after something else happened that couldn't be seen. What's curious from that part is that Villa and Ozil got sent out but Valdes didn't. He was the one that requested the card for Ozil.

I wouldn't be surprised if this stays as it is. The league will protect its reputation and that usually means closing the mouths of the players involved. It was bad enough that this happened between two big teams. They will not dig deeper. They're better off saying that Ozil got upset because Villa made a comment about Ozil's breath or something along those lines. In the end, only Villa and Ozil know what was said.
nchs09
What the is wrong with pinto?
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