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Bridging the gap between pa and mixing (combining electribes w/ CDjs live)
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| Dojomaster26 |
This is one of those threads that could also exist in the production forum...
So I'm trying to spice up my sets. I have two electribes, an er-1 and an ea-1. The er-1 is a drum machine, and the ea-1 is an analog synth. I also have a pair of cdj-200s and a numark dxm06 mixer. (I know the mixing gear needs an update, maybe in the near future.)
What I want to do is mix some funky and electro house with CDjs and also mix in some live performance with the electribes, maybe with a laptop running reason in the future.
The only problem is that my mixer, the dxm06, is a 2-channel mixer. The mixer has been good for plugging my CDjs into, but a little cumbersome when I'm also trying to switch between the CDjs and the electribes. There are a couple of issues in particular:
- the electribes are phono devices. If I want to switch to playing on the electribe, I have to switch that channel to phono on two different places on the mixer (top and back.) the big problem with this is that the signal strength from the electribe is much stronger than from the CDjs, so that when switching i also need to re-adjust the gain and fader levels. This might make transitions from CDjs to electribes less-than-smooth, and I risk blowing a component during repeated switches.
- because I'm on a 2-channel mixer, I can only swap to one device at a time. That means that every single electribe swap will involve mixing into just the synth or just the drum machine. I would like to just have my electribes going when I mix into them, instead of potentially killing some energy by having to build up from just one of the units.
I really want to upgrade to a 4-channel mixer, but I haven't found any mixers that have the inputs or outputs that I want. There are production-specific mixers that take line-inputs (guitars, electribes, mics) and there are mixers that are geared to djs (line and phono inputs for CDjs and turntables). I would love to have a mixer that took both RCA and 1/4" line inputs at the same time, but I can't find any! I guess any old 4-channel mixer will do for this setup, but that means that I would have to keep using adapters to plug in my electribes. I don't want to buy a separate production-gear mixer; having two mixers just seems wasteful. Finally, having some Xlr outputs instead of just a RCA output would be awesome, eliminating another adapter from the rig.
Does anyone have experience with this type of setup? Any mixers that you can recommend that have the plug-ins that I need to run both electribes and at the same time sans-adapters? any general advise for doing this kind of thing? I know it's a bit out of the norm, but I'm really excited to try it out :) |
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| n3lly |
| I've copied (it exists in both production and dj booth) the thread for you into the production forum as well. Hope that helps you get the answers you're looking for :) |
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| clay |
| i had tremendous fun with two electribes (ESX+EMX), and my dj setup. At the time i had Ecler 3ch mixer and CDJ800. Sold it all though, didnt go anywhere lol. |
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| Dojomaster26 |
Thanks for copying this thread, n3lly.
clay, what caused you to stop using the setup with your Electribes?
I'm definitely going to upgrade to a mixer with more inputs.
I am looking at these mixers right now:
Ecler Nuo 4
Allen & Heath Zone:42/62
Pioneer DJM-700
Korg KM-402
I don't need any of the extra MIDI or software controls that the higher-end 4-channel mixers are now boasting. I do want to get something that I won't regret that I can use for years to come. My budget is between $700-1000, maybe a bit more if I have to spend it, but I'd really like to have money left for other upgrades too.
The Korg KM-402 is enticing, but I'm cautious because it seems too good for its price tag. The built-in Kaoss Pad is sweet, but I have seen people complain about the faders. I don't have much experience with non-Pioneer mixers besides my Numark. I am looking forward to heading into Charlotte in a couple of weeks to try these mixers out so that I can figure out which one to get...
Thanks for the help guys :) |
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