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| A.B |
I recall seeing a previous topic that discussed the process of ripping vinyl to computer. Couldn't seem to find it.
Anyway, I'm looking to rip about 30 or so vinyl for a gig next week and was probably just going to do it via my 1210 and my DJM 3000 via my PC soundcard.
I'm looking to get some pointers on getting the best sound possible for minimum cost.
Any pointers on how to achieve this would be appreciated. I will of course check the levels of tracks prior to recording, clean stylus, records etc.
Just wondering if a simple case of 1210 > pc > cd is a crude process or would be regarded as efficient enough.
I should point out that the venue holds around 250 people.
I did take my 1210's to the previous gig but the booth was in a terrible state and it could barely support the weight and was very shaky.
Thanks in advance. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by A.B
Just wondering if a simple case of 1210 > pc > cd is a crude process or would be regarded as efficient enough.
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No, unless your sound card has a RIAA preamp. Probably doesn't, so you should record it thru your mixer.
What else? Cleanliness of your records is essential. ty sound card might not provide the best results. Most DJ carts have compromised on the sound quality due to other factors being more important in them.
I edit out pops and clicks, which is often easy enough, but sometimes it's very ing difficult. But then again I ing hate the clicks and pops and other artifacts that do not belong to the music. Also it's best to normalize to 0dB on the computer before burning to a CD. |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| only normalize if you want to flatten the piss out of your tracks..which can sound way worse than vinyl pops. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
only normalize if you want to flatten the piss out of your tracks..which can sound way worse than vinyl pops. |
Normalization != compression ;) |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| you don't know how to use gains? normalizing tracks does not work in your favor sorry. what do I know? I only own a few thousand records. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
you don't know how to use gains? normalizing tracks does not work in your favor sorry. what do I know? I only own a few thousand records. |
I do know how to use them, and I do use them all the time. Still, I like to normalize every track to peak at 0dB. It does not do any harm to the signal whatsoever. I also play my tracks in non-DJing situations and I'm not too fond of fiddling with the volume knob all the time cuz some track I recorded from vinyl happens to peak at -10dB for example.
And what do you know? Apparently not much about normalization at least. Owning a few thousand records isn't relevant at all when talking about normalization. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
wrong again. |
Please enlighten me then you wise man. How exactly does normalizing the track to peak at 0dB "flatten the piss out of your tracks"? And how what I posted just is "wrong again"? |
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| Brandt Slater |
I use the Denon DPDJ-151 TT's, digital out to an Alesis ML-9600. I record it normal. No compression, no boosts. The stylus I use already has great output which usually puts out a -4 db level on the meter of the Alesis. If the track sounds weird (i.e. really bad vinyl pops, bad hiss, etc) I'll dump it over to Pro Tools for clean up and I never normalize.
A 1210 to a 3000 to soundcard should work fine. Not the best option but it does work. I would look into a TT with a digital out and/or usb connection. That way you can bypass the mixer altogether. |
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| pozz |
normalization cuts the peaks out of your tracks and lowers the dynamic range. sometimes your get ugly hums or volume fluctuations. mixers have those gain knobs because all tracks are mastered with different amouts of headroom -- which is not true for the budget trance put out these days.
part of the skill of being a dj is to learn to eq and set levels properly.
getting rid of the clicks and hiss is rather hard in most cases. in the clubs hissing is not that noticable tho.
i rip with my friend's 1210 and edit/eq with izotope rx & sony acid. |
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| A.B |
| Many thanks for all the advice guys, much appreciated! |
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| quote: | Originally posted by pozz
normalization cuts the peaks out of your tracks and lowers the dynamic range. sometimes your get ugly hums or volume fluctuations. mixers have those gain knobs because all tracks are mastered with different amouts of headroom -- which is not true for the budget trance put out these days.
part of the skill of being a dj is to learn to eq and set levels properly.
getting rid of the clicks and hiss is rather hard in most cases. in the clubs hissing is not that noticable tho.
i rip with my friend's 1210 and edit/eq with izotope rx & sony acid. |
Seriously WTF? I don't mean to sound harsh but are you all ing clueless? :wtf: Normalizing the track to peak at 0dB does not cut any peaks at all. It just raises the amplitude of the signal so that the loudest signal peaks at exactly 0dB, not above or below. RMS normalization is a whole another thing and you can cut peaks with that quite easily. But doing an RMS normalization to 0dB is something even an idiot wouldn't do, at least after hearing how it sounds like. :wtf: |
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