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Russian hockey team's jet crashes, killing 36 (pg. 2)
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| Sasha |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ferg
Note to self. Never fly on a russian airline |
you are stupid |
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| FunkyCrew |
people have no idea how many different airplane models operate in Russia
it wasn't the usual Boeing, it was a YAK -> these should have been discontinued years ago |
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| Takayuki |
I'm no hater but the Russians definitely need to get their act together when it comes to Air Traffic safety:
"Russia and the former Soviet republics combined for the worst air traffic safety record in the world in 2009, according to the International Air Transport Association, with an accident rate 13 times the world average. There were 24 aircraft accidents in Russia in 2010." |
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| Ferg |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sasha
you are stupid |
Am I?
-September 7, 2011: 43 people are killed when a Yak-42 charter jet carrying a top hockey team crashes moments after take-off from the central Russian city of Yaroslavl.
-June 20, 2011: 47 dead when a Tupolev 134 airliner crashes on its landing approach to Petrozavodsk in north-western Russia.
-April 10, 2010: All 96 people aboard a Russian Tupolev 154 carrying Poland's president and other top Polish officials die when the presidential jet crashes near Smolensk.
-September 14, 2008: 88 dead when an Aeroflot Boeing flying from Moscow to Perm in the Ural Mountains crashes on its landing approach.
-July 9, 2006: 125 people die when an Airbus operated by a Siberian company veers off the runway on landing in Irkutsk, hits a wall and catches fire. More than 70 people survive.
-May 3, 2006: All 113 people aboard an Armenian Airbus plane flying from Yerevan to Sochi in southern Russia die when the craft come-s down in the Black Sea on its landing approach.
-July 3, 2001: All 145 passengers and crew on a Siberian Tupolev 154 flying from Yekaterinburg in the Ural Mountains to Vladivostok in the far east die when the craft crashes before landing for refuelling in Irkutsk. Pilot error is blamed.
You are stupid if you get on one. |
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| evil_cookie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Takayuki
I'm no hater but the Russians definitely need to get their act together when it comes to Air Traffic safety:
"Russia and the former Soviet republics combined for the worst air traffic safety record in the world in 2009, according to the International Air Transport Association, with an accident rate 13 times the world average. There were 24 aircraft accidents in Russia in 2010." |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ferg
Am I?
-September 7, 2011: 43 people are killed when a Yak-42 charter jet carrying a top hockey team crashes moments after take-off from the central Russian city of Yaroslavl.
-June 20, 2011: 47 dead when a Tupolev 134 airliner crashes on its landing approach to Petrozavodsk in north-western Russia.
-April 10, 2010: All 96 people aboard a Russian Tupolev 154 carrying Poland's president and other top Polish officials die when the presidential jet crashes near Smolensk.
-September 14, 2008: 88 dead when an Aeroflot Boeing flying from Moscow to Perm in the Ural Mountains crashes on its landing approach.
-July 9, 2006: 125 people die when an Airbus operated by a Siberian company veers off the runway on landing in Irkutsk, hits a wall and catches fire. More than 70 people survive.
-May 3, 2006: All 113 people aboard an Armenian Airbus plane flying from Yerevan to Sochi in southern Russia die when the craft come-s down in the Black Sea on its landing approach.
-July 3, 2001: All 145 passengers and crew on a Siberian Tupolev 154 flying from Yekaterinburg in the Ural Mountains to Vladivostok in the far east die when the craft crashes before landing for refuelling in Irkutsk. Pilot error is blamed.
You are stupid if you get on one. |
This. |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by geroin
i flew on russian airline many times and its not any worse than any other airline. |
During the last NHL strike, Brad Richards skipped out on the multi million dollar contract he signed there because he refused to fly on any of the aircraft he had seen there due to safety reasons.
I'll take the opinion of a guy who gave up a few million because of a plane over a russian guy with a nationalist view.
Come on...it is common knowledge that many planes in Russia today are still from the Soviet days. I don't know if you have noticed over the years, but they couldn't build anything right. |
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| GGM |
Despite all the plane accidents above I'm sure you're still more likely to die in a car in Russia. Soooo is everyone going to swear they won't step in a car there either? I bet more drinkers have more alcohol related deaths than fliers in Russia, more smokers get lung cancer etc. So not going going to drink or smoke too?
Bottom line is everything you do in life adds a + or a - to the risk of you dying. If you can't handle that then buy a bungalow, get your groceries delivered, never go outside etc. I can personally think of many things that I wouldn't miss doing that are more likely to make me die than stepping on a Russian flight. This (like 95% of news out there) isn't anything to change the way you live life. Read it, pay respects, take what you want from it and move on. |
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| evil_cookie |
| quote: | Originally posted by GGM
Despite all the plane accidents above I'm sure you're still more likely to die in a car in Russia. Soooo is everyone going to swear they won't step in a car there either? I bet more drinkers have more alcohol related deaths than fliers in Russia, more smokers get lung cancer etc. So not going going to drink or smoke too?
Bottom line is everything you do in life adds a + or a - to the risk of you dying. If you can't handle that then buy a bungalow, get your groceries delivered, never go outside etc. I can personally think of many things that I wouldn't miss doing that are more likely to make me die than stepping on a Russian flight. This (like 95% of news out there) isn't anything to change the way you live life. Read it, pay respects, take what you want from it and move on. |
This doesn't even deserve a thoughtful response. So, instead, here is a smiley face
:gsmile: |
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| GGM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
Come on...it is common knowledge that many planes in Russia today are still from the Soviet days. I don't know if you have noticed over the years, but they couldn't build anything right. |
That's somewhat of an overstatement and let's not forget about the crash a couple years back with a Bombardier built plane. Except this model entered service in 2000, not 1980, and was Canadian produced not Soviet. The actual plane that crashed had under a year of use before the incident:
| quote: | Feb. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Bombardier Inc. Dash 8 Q400 turboprop commuter plane that crashed into a house in upstate New York, killing 50 people, was built in 2008 and had been in service for less than a year.
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Source
CBC Story
Or maybe some of you shouldn't read that, you'll have to swear off flying Porter afterwards as that's the exact same plane they use as well... |
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| GGM |
| quote: | Originally posted by evil_cookie
This doesn't even deserve a thoughtful response. |
Then respond to my 2nd post if my 1st was so bad. Would you fly Porter given the same aircraft they use had a much worse accident with a much newer plane? |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
ok, now find instances of it happening multiple times in a year with the same plane.
you are no dummy GGM, but don't use a strawman argument with me.;) |
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| geroin |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
During the last NHL strike, Brad Richards skipped out on the multi million dollar contract he signed there because he refused to fly on any of the aircraft he had seen there due to safety reasons.
I'll take the opinion of a guy who gave up a few million because of a plane over a russian guy with a nationalist view.
Come on...it is common knowledge that many planes in Russia today are still from the Soviet days. I don't know if you have noticed over the years, but they couldn't build anything right. |
yeah ok, because all those accidents listed were related to faults in the actual plane and not pilots errors, right? |
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