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What's the best way to leave headroom? (pg. 3)
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| J.L. |
It is better to cut than boost during mixing.
When you are done mixing, you can always increase the gain in the final master stages to give it more juice.
Always cut frequencies below 30-40 hz because often times they will not be audible in most systems, and if audible will just be a barely audible rumble. They can have their uses, but most people don't know how to use it properly.
Synths and pads are always culprit to being to muddy around 300-800 hz, so make sure you treat it there.
Watch your transients, and use a compressor to tame them because the peak of the transient may be 10 dB's above the main body of the sound and can cause clipping. You don't want to overcompress since they will make the sounds feel less in your face and more of a blur and feel very distant.
With FL Studio, I always use at least 30 fx channels, because 1) my CPU can handle it, and 2) it is great having control over each sound and to adjust the overall FX channel after applying compression (because adjusting the volume before compression screws up the way the compression works). Like Robby said, more control = more mixing power.
If you don't have decent monitors, always use graphic analyzers to figure out problem frequencies. Usually they are the bass and sub frequencies where people have trouble hearing with. |
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| dj_alfi |
| Bend your knees slightly and tilt your head downwards. |
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| OOPS! |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_alfi
Bend your knees slightly and tilt your head downwards. |
ing lol :haha: |
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| DJ RANN |
me, there's a lot of bollocks in this thread.
First, read my thread:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...92#post10249892
It explains exactly why you should not ever pull down the master fader except for one very specific quick circumstance.
We also went in to the whole plugin/32 bit float debate in another thread - the bottom line is that even though you should in theory be able to overload any plug and just pull down another subsequent fader in the chain like the master, it doesn't quite work like that for the negative reasons stated in the thread above, and because of the way that some plugins are programmed (not to mention how many doe not give the same result twice for the same input source).
You also don't want to do it for reasons of proper gain staging (think about what happens to the relative levels of any groups/sub groups/sends/inserts etc).
Simply put your master should be at a set standard (i.e K system), and you should mix your channels so you get as hot a signal as possible without clipping the master when summed or individually. That's what mixing is about. |
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| djsaekone |
| make sure u have proper gain staging, and cut eq's rather than boost. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
cutting vs boosting a matter of opinion, two eqs in series , one boosting , one cutting will produce the same phase shift and return the original signal. There is no technical reason to cut rather than boost. This was an issue in the analog realm.
boots to add what you like, cut what you don't like. Pretty simple. |
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| Evolve140 |
| Check for peaks that could be causing the clipping, and mix everything down again from scratch with nothing on the master. |
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| cristianokeller |
"Most DAWs" operates in 32 bits float. This means you can go up 0db without distortions. It will convert room not used to use up 0 db and this will not saturate anything, you're digital...
So you can sequence with small red light with no problem...
When rendering the song you can lower the Output channel level and make them peaking less than 0db...
Simple no? |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by cristianokeller
"Most DAWs" operates in 32 bits float. This means you can go up 0db without distortions. It will convert room not used to use up 0 db and this will not saturate anything, you're digital...
So you can sequence with small red light with no problem...
When rendering the song you can lower the Output channel level and make them peaking less than 0db...
Simple no? |
No.
See my post above. If you lower the output channel, you're ing your monitor reference calibration and gain staging. Secondly, plugins don't always behave the way they are meant to meaning you could have a different result or unwanted distortion introduced.
Why is this so hard for people to understand?
Finally, regardless of if you can get away with it, it's good practise to mix so you have no overs and proper gain staging - if you ever go to a real studio and try that they'll eject you in seconds. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| most pros use 24 bit over 32 float.There is no gain in definition. 32 float just assumes you can't mix.AsRann mentioned , some plugins will clip internally, not sure if that is a reality now but i still think the sony oxford bundle will clip. |
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| Evolve140 |
| What's up with all this lowering output channel, floating point bull? Just learn how to mixdown and you won't get clipping. Stop making it more complicated than it needs to be. |
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| Nick Cenik |
| Set your Master fader to 0dB and bring down the levels of all your other channels/grouped channels until you get approximately 6dB of headroom in the mix. This is preferable to simply bringing the Master fader down and then rendering from there. |
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