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Steve Jobs has died... (pg. 2)
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| cristianokeller |
1 - I HATE APPLE
2 - I HATE STEVE |
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| cl0ckw3rk |
| "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary." - Steve Jobs |
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| clay |
computers starts to bore me again....
RIP anyhow, mac is the closest thing ill ever come to something decent. |
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| DJ RANN |
RIP to steve.
One thing that is worrying from a medical point of view is that Steve had unlimited funds to fight Pancreatic cancer, and it's is rumored that he had a partial pancreatic transplant, which is right at the cutting edge of transplant technology. If he couldn't beat it, then I don't know what will?
ON the point of "changing things"? Yes he developed some groundbreaking products but people are comparing him and his cultural impact to Ghandi, Churchill, Edison, etc - that does not at all sit well with me.
He didn't really change much apart from our purchasing consumption behaviour, which in the grand scheme of things in life is pretty minor and petty. Granted, every ****** on earth has an ipod, but sony made the walkman before that, Edison with Cylinders before that - basically variations on a theme of making music distributable and portable.
He made computers that were designed very nicely, but he didn't invent them either.
Don't get me wrong, he was a massive influence on product development, but cultural icon or a changemaker? I personally don't think so. |
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| turpentine |
| quote: | Originally posted by emc^2
^sorry. gotta disagree.
Ever since Apple bought out eMagic, they completely butchered Logic, killed Sound Diver, and have you tried making RME Fireface work with Mac?
I would NEVER compare Moog with Jobs. iPad, while an interesting innovation, it is still quite limited for musical application.
The rest - Apple cruised on momentum. I'll give you Garage band, however, the jury is still out whether it is a good thing or bad - especially allowing hipstards to make music. |
actually, firefaces are very compatible with macs. i have 2 of them which i've used with at least 5 different macs and have never once had any sort of issue with any of them. go to the logicprohelp forums and you will see most people recommend it as the interface of choice.
i agree comparing jobs with bob moog is a bit far-fetched but all bias aside if you can't see how jobs modernized music than quite frankly you're just dumb and ignorant. the whole concept of buying music online was pioneered by iTunes and it was the first digital music store to ever surpass cd sales, making the whole idea of buying cds pretty much obsolete. |
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| meriter |
| end of an era definitely |
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| Vector A |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
RIP to steve.
One thing that is worrying from a medical point of view is that Steve had unlimited funds to fight Pancreatic cancer, and it's is rumored that he had a partial pancreatic transplant, which is right at the cutting edge of transplant technology. If he couldn't beat it, then I don't know what will? |
Almost all pancreatic cancer is fatal, often in less than a year. Jobs had a rare form, an islet cell neuroendicrine tumor, that is much less aggressive and much more treatable than most kinds, especially if it is caught as early as his was. There is some speculation that he may have lived significantly longer if he had chosen ordinary tumor removal surgery immediately after being diagnosed, rather than trying an "alternative" treatment for the first nine months. The tumor may have grown during that period, ultimately making it harder to treat:
| quote: | I’m sad that today I’m adding a slide to one of my live presentations, adding Steve Jobs to the list of famous people who died treating terminal diseases with woo rather than with medicine.
Seven or eight years ago, the news broke that Steve Jobs had been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, but considering it a private matter, he delayed in informing Apple’s board, and Apple’s board delayed in informing the shareholders. So what. The only delay that really mattered was that Steve, it turned out, had been treating his pancreatic cancer with a special diet and other alternative therapies, prescribed by his naturopath.
Most pancreatic cancers are aggressive and always terminal, but Steve was lucky (if you can call it that) and had a rare form called an islet cell neuroendocrine tumor, which is actually quite treatable with excellent survival rates — if caught soon enough. The median survival is about a decade, but it depends on how soon it’s removed surgically. Steve caught his very early, and should have expected to survive much longer than a decade. Unfortunately Steve relied on a naturopathic diet instead of early surgery. There is no evidence that diet has any effect on islet cell carcinoma. As he dieted for nine months, the tumor progressed, and took him from the high end to the low end of the survival rate.
Eventually it became clear to all involved that his alternative therapy wasn’t working, and from then on, by all accounts, Steve aggressively threw money at the best that medical science could offer. But it was too late. He had a Whipple procedure. He had a liver transplant. And then he died, all too young. |
Steve Jobs succumbs to alternative medicine |
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| cryophonik |
| Some of the comments here are just harsh and not funny at all. Aside from running a very successful company that employs a lot people and that has brought a lot of innovative products into our lives, the guy spent his last few years fighting a terrible disease, died far too young, and left behind a wife and four kids. Think about your own father dying at 56. It's a terrible loss no matter how you look at it. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
Some of the comments here are just harsh and not funny at all. Aside from running a very successful company that employs a lot people and that has brought a lot of innovative products into our lives, the guy spent his last few years fighting a terrible disease, died far too young, and left behind a wife and four kids. Think about your own father dying at 56. It's a terrible loss no matter how you look at it. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| people that push alternative "medicine" should be sent to australia. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
people that push alternative "medicine" should be sent to australia. |
They were. |
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| Storyteller |
| It's unfortate for someone to die this young. I do however think a lot of people have lost touch with reality after his death and I think he's unworthy of the demigod attention his passing is getting. |
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