Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Nah, I don't find the psytrance you actually hear at parties to be very hypnotic, or very trancey at all really. It tends to be just a really well-engineered bassline (you know, that bassline) and a pounding beat... forever. Fun for about an hour or so, but unless you're on drugs it just gets really tiresome really fast. That's how it is round here anyway.
Yeah, that's long sort of been psy trance's pro and con. It really hasn't changed much in over 15 years, which is good if you don't mind dipping your toes into the scene every once in a while. You know what you're going to get when you want your fill, and can ignore it for months or years after, secure in the knowledge you probably won't be missing much in the interim.
SYSTEM-J
I just don't think psytrance has any real connection to "pure trance" anymore. It's much more like a techno or hard dance kind of party, druggy by necessity, relentless and unwavering.
Dinoz2013
Genre Fighting is like Racism.
Music is Music.
Can't we All just get along?!
BTW Trance is still the Best.
Sykonee
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I just don't think psytrance has any real connection to "pure trance" anymore. It's much more like a techno or hard dance kind of party, druggy by necessity, relentless and unwavering.
That's what I was getting at in the first place. It's not so much that psy is "pure trance", but that the environment it gets played out in tends to be parties where folks are more zoned out than in a concert setting.
Of course, that can be said of any genre of music. Psy is no more trance-inducing than jungle in this regard.
Trance-MB
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Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
When I first started, Trance was already dead. But it wasn't dead to the point of where it is now. You are going through a similar experience I went through. We both are/were in the era where Trance is at its grave.
Just another view. To me trance started in 1986 with this, although it didn't really exist then:
That's why to me trance is still synthesizer music with a disco beat.
Proper trance to me also are the early 90s tracks like:
i was 5 when that came out, chipmunk christmas was my favorite album!
I remember back when all you had to do was type in tranceaddict on your Napster search button and dozens of tracks would appear.
like this
you tube Rocks!
and many more
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Sykonee
That's what I was getting at in the first place. It's not so much that psy is "pure trance", but that the environment it gets played out in tends to be parties where folks are more zoned out than in a concert setting.
Yeah, the parties definitely have the original spirit. They always just disappoint me musically.
Adam420
Because a lot of psy trance producers and DJs are amateurs and will always be so. I don't know why, but that genre has never been able to have the kind of legitimacy as trance, house and techno. There is just not the kind of professionalism and musical sensibility that you'll find with house and techno and trance. It's like in a way, it's stuck in the 90's, but hasn't gotten any better really.
Mattinsanity
psy trance is a travesty to electronic music. the fact that the adjective refers to illegal drug users shows that straight edge people like myself are in a class above psy trance fanatics.
supersaw abuse
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Originally posted by Adam420
Because a lot of psy trance producers and DJs are amateurs and will always be so. I don't know why, but that genre has never been able to have the kind of legitimacy as trance, house and techno.
same reason happy hardcore is never going to have cred - it all sounds the same and isn't very good
Dj Pluviose
I couldn't agree with the above posts any more. Seriously though I need to listen to different music.... what's good nowadays?
supersaw abuse
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Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
I couldn't agree with the above posts any more. Seriously though I need to listen to different music.... what's good nowadays?
