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Sony MDR-Z1000 vs Sennheiser HD 25 vs Sony MDR V6/7506 (pg. 2)
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
Do you not think this is down to the fact the Sony's are incredibly bright? |
I'm not sure I'd call the 9509 HD's "bright" as such - you can certainly hear the highs well but IMO it's not out of proportion to the low's. The problem, at least for me, with closed back headphones is panning and accurate translation of low frequencies when mixing (I mean in terms of producing not DJ'ing) but that may just be shortcomings as I know other people who can mix to quite a decent level even on closed backs. I can never seem to get the bass and stereo field prefectly right headphones, like I feel I can with monitors.
The 7905HD's are the best headphones I've ever owned or even used - for things like sound design and Dj'ing they are an absolute joy to use. |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| Have you considered skullcandy? One of the best headphones ever made. |
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| Adam420 |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
Have you considered skullcandy? One of the best headphones ever made. |
Nah man Beat by Dr. Dre
What other headphones are made by a doctor?
A ing doctor! |
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| element-y |
thanks for the recommendations.
But no one knows how to read the two y axis differences haha? |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by element-y
thanks for the recommendations.
But no one knows how to read the two y axis differences haha? |
No need, it's all bollocks. Don't trust those kinda manufacturer tech specs. Cannot be trusted. |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by element-y
thanks for the recommendations.
But no one knows how to read the two y axis differences haha? |
We know, but as Lunar Phase pointed out, they mean very little in terms of your benefit. They are tests that have been carried out under specific conditions and an optimal volume designed to sell the headphone.
As I said before, it comes down to the pair of headphones that you can get the clearest audio image out of ,if you are getting into music production, if it's just for being a DJ then it's the pair that are the most comfortable and are most easy going on your ears for long durations of time.
As for the Sony MDR-Z1000, I have tried a pair and I found them a bit Hi Fi. I know they say that they are good enough for the studio and for audiophiles, but to be honest, they are two worlds that do not co-exist well together, because basically your average audiophile has no interest in flat response, they are into listening pleasure (which isn't a bad thing I might add) and as a result the phones are a bit bass heavy and lack in the midrange in terms of representation. As a DJ you could use them, but they would let you down in the studio. Are they better than the other phones mentioned, in a nutshell.... no. Are they bad headphones generally... no. But are they worth the money... most certainly not. In fact I would say that if anything these should be much cheaper than the other headphones in this thread and it's cynical marketing on the part of Sony.
Cheers
Nem |
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| element-y |
Got ya thanks.
I did have a chance to listen to some of these.
The z1000 i am able to buy for 200.
They did sound a little hi-fi and there was a dip in the sound in the mids. I own the v6 which are flat and I like them. Not sure if i should pitch out the 200 for the z1000 for listening headphones or just get new pads for the v6.
The 7506 and 7509HD had a lot of back and forth on here that i read. Seems people prefer the 7506. And they say the 7506 is the same as the v6 pretty much. So might be better off sticking to old cans and just updating them. Dont have a hook for the Sennheiser compared to Sony. Also have the hook for Pioneer, Bose and A&H. But didnt see any i would want over Sony or Sennheiser of those. |
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| Lith |
All headphones mentioned here are probably ok. What are you trying to accomplish?
I figure since you posted to DJ Booth you want for DJing, but this conversation has strayed in the producing realm as well.
I agree with the others, the axis and specs don't tell the story. You can both produce and mix on anything, as long as you learn exactly how they reproduce sound.
(though I never recommend producing/mixing/mastering with headphones because you cannot accurately reproduce stereo imaging. People can do it, I just wouldn't recommend it)
If DJing and mixing/mastering: go with the flattest response. More accurate to the sound.
If DJing alone: go with whatever makes it easier for you (maybe you prefer kicks, maybe highs?).
Neither DJing nor mastering should be done in headphones alone. Mixing/mastering I mentioned above, but with DJing, unless you strictly do it through headphones, you should be using monitors, otherwise you open up the possibility that your volume levels are inaccurate to each song.
You haven't stated why the V6s don't meet your needs. As far as I'm aware they are the same as 7506s. I use 7506s myself. I think they're great: good bass response, clear, and functional. Yes, they can be frail, and the earpads disintegrate, but the sound is great. You probably lose most of the sound quality and integrity of the other sets if you press your shoulder into your headphones when you mix anyway.
But, it all comes down to how you use them, whichever pair.
With headphones, they are there to preview (not considering headphone mixing alone). No one listening to your set is wearing the headphones, so focus on what you need to make your job easier. |
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| Mise |
the db/Hz graph tells how those headphones respond to the "analog" output signal, the inverse relation between the amount of volumen (in db) a frequency has to have in relation to others fqs, to perceive each as equally loud.
Regarded to the headphones model I have the 7506, and I can only tell you I am pretty happy with them, sharp enough to make fine tuning, and bass do not stick out to much. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by element-y
Got ya thanks.
I did have a chance to listen to some of these.
The z1000 i am able to buy for 200.
They did sound a little hi-fi and there was a dip in the sound in the mids. I own the v6 which are flat and I like them. Not sure if i should pitch out the 200 for the z1000 for listening headphones or just get new pads for the v6.
The 7506 and 7509HD had a lot of back and forth on here that i read. Seems people prefer the 7506. And they say the 7506 is the same as the v6 pretty much. So might be better off sticking to old cans and just updating them. Dont have a hook for the Sennheiser compared to Sony. Also have the hook for Pioneer, Bose and A&H. But didnt see any i would want over Sony or Sennheiser of those. |
Let me just clarify - I currently use the 9509HD's, and still own a pair of mashed up 7506's. For DJ'ing alone the 7506's are fine and the 9509HD's are probably overkill for that sole purpose, but when you throw producing in to the mix, the 9509HD's win without a doubt. The detail is better than any headphones I've ever used. I still would not do a final mix (I'll use my monitors for that) but for eq, sound design etc, they are phenomenal.
My advice is to go 7506's if you're just DJ'ing but if you plan to do more, you will see the benefit from the 7509HD's, and they are a pleasure to DJ with as well. |
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| Brandt Slater |
| What RANN said. 7506's are great for DJing or whatever. 9509HD's are the absolute best. I have both, and use both. However, the 95's are more for studio use. No matter the route you take, you won't be disappointed. |
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| RyanVice |
How many HD25 vs. 7506 posts are there in the history of TA?? Id LOVE to know.
either way. HD25 PWNS |
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